Random Thoughts Oh Baby!

Random Thoughts Oh Baby!

By TSM

As I've said on Twitter, we had some comment/spam issues and as a result we moved servers.  This has resulted in some latency issues between the old server and the new.  If you can refresh your browser when coming to the site, it will ensure you have the most recent version.

Do you remember this:

"After leading the league in penalty minutes for the second consecutive season, Avery was suspended by the Kings for the last three games of the 2005-2006 season as a disciplinary measure. In 2007, he was fined $2,500 for comments made about a Toronto Maple Leaf player, Jason Blake, who was battling leukemia. Avery did later win a libel suit against Toronto radio personality Howard Berger, who retracted his statements in reference to the incident. The win in court did not matter to his fellow players; Avery had made his mark and was universally disliked."

Well, I wonder if this segment by Jeff Blair could land another Toronto radio personality in hot water.

 

This is the quote in Warmington's column that set Blair off:

"From behind it looked like something different, with each player standing with their hands behind their back and positioned as if they were handcuffed."

The consensus this morning is that at least 20% of the workforce at Postmedia is going to get slashed this week as the media dismantling continues in Canada. If I ran post media here's what I would do: combine the sports section of all of it's papers and stop printing them, go online online and take on the other sports "portals".  Then print only one paper and combine staffs.  Here's what i do know, hard working folks are going to be out of work this week, joining their fellow staffers who fell before them.  What's needed is better management not a government handout. Layoffs looming at the Post and the Globe and Mail looking for people to raise their hand… not good.

Wow has covering sports media in town changed. I don't remember the business as being as personal as it is now. I've always expected a basic level of competitiveness from one outlet to the other.  What I didn't expect, and maybe it's just me being naive but wow there is general dislike amongst those in the business.  All I will say right now is that there are some seriously polarizing personalities in the business.

Watching college football in the USA, it's no wonder there are so many penalties in the NFL.  They call nothing in the college game.

Yes, I heard Andrew Walker talk about Kevin Pillar yesterday on the Fan.  Yes I heard him rattle off the reasons Pillar is so "Sneaky" (Walkers word not mine) being the most popular Blue Jay.  No, I don't think there's anything wrong with what Walker said.  Basically he said that Pillar is popular in 4/5 demographics: 1. Pillar is appealing to women 2. Pillar is very popular to kids 3. Pillar is Jewish and that covers a cultural minority, 4 Pillar appeals to what Walker called the modern "dumb" baseball fan who is mostly intrigued by HR's and diving catches (as opposed to what Walker deems the more important statistics/accomplishments). The only missing demographic for Pillar is that he is not Canadian.  Again, this is what Walker said.  He also said that this is part of the reason he believes that if (and I repeat, IF) Pillar was to depart the Blue Jays fans ( I presume the dumb ones) would be more upset than if Bautista left.

No, I don't believe there was an anti semitic intent in what Walker said.

TSN Radio needs to do a better job of updating their podcasts.  The Fan get's them up (that's wha she said) shortly after a show airs.  It seems to take TSN longer.

Meanwhile, Overdrive had a good week.

The Raptors have recaptured my imagination right out of the gate.  I've watched both their games nearly in their entirety.  Those covering the Raps didn't miss a beat and man oh man I love Sam Mitchell on the games!

The best of the week was Bob Cole on PTS.  Fascinating to note that McCown had NEVER met Cole before this interview.  I'll be honest with you, Cole is NOT the best interview subject, but the stories he tells and the ones other folks tell about him make the interviews must listen to.  Kudos, to all those who told great stories this week.  Glen Healy in the segment immediately following the hour long interview was especially good.

Speaking of Cole, if Rogers was trying to fix it's NHL coverage why isn't Cole back on Toronto Maple Leaf games on Saturday nights.  I don't care if he doesn't get it right every time ( no one does), we will only blessed with Bob's ability to call games for so long and selfishly I want as much as I can get.  McCown said it best, Cole is an iconic voice.  Why the powers that be insist on depriving us of our icon is nothing other than shameful.  Hughson and others can do the other games (or not) but Leafs vs. Habs should be Bob Cole.  Put Cole back on Rogers.

You can buy Cole's book here 

We'll leave this be with the best of Bob via Jeremy MacLaine.

 

COMMENTS

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    GreyCountyMike 6 months

    Re Andrew Walker: He's a solid enough broadcaster, a good bench guy if you will. Overall, having come around a little on him, I'd rank him a solid B-Lister.

    However, in Walker's attempts to lift his exposure (almost as if he's continually trying to prove he belongs in the Toronto market), he always seems to be reaching just a little too much to make a point … and, more times than naught, it doesn't quite come off right.

    If he'd play it straight and/or normal, he'd be fine. Again, he's not Bob McCown … and there's nothing wrong with that. Nobody expects him to be the marquee guy.

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    Paul G. 6 months

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    Cirroc 6 months

    I usually enjoy Blair, but he's becoming quite the SJW.

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    Hans 6 months

    Correct me if I'm worng but I recall reading/hearing at some point that part of the reason why Bob Cole doesn't do many Leaf games any mroe is because said games are viewed as the "#1 game" with CBC/sportsnet and that Hughson has it in his contract that he gets the "#1 game" no matter what. If that's correct then I'm sure it's partially (along with Rogers old exec wanting to kill anything CBC with regards to hcokey) to explain why we have less Bob cole and more Jim "I love the Vancouver Canucks over all teams" Hughson.  

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    Mike S 6 months

    The hour on PTS with Bob Cole is a good example of how Shannon should be used on 590………..it was a good idea to have him there for the interview because he had worked extensively with Cole in the past and had many good stories………….when the topic is sports broadcasting or sports broadcasters Shannon definitely adds value

    The weekly Friday PTS roundtable is a good example of how Shannon should not be used on 590……………..he pretends to know a lot about sports other than hockey but during a long two hour discussion his lack of knowledge gets exposed………….it's too bad the producers of PTS aren't more creative when selecting the roundtable participants each week

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    mario 6 months

    Thanks for the read. Bob Cole is definitely a legend , very good interview on PTS should be calling more games. 

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    NefCanuck 6 months

    Call me a heathen if you must, but Cole to me has past the point of being a #1 voice at HNIC some time ago.  I would say he should be kept on Rogers Hometown Hockey on Sundays and used sparingly on Saturday games, but he's had his day IMO.

    As to the decline of print journalism (and sports journalism), technology marches on, the only way I see sports journalism surviving is if they adapt to the digital age and *now*  Gone are they days when people went out to get a newspaper, the internet comes to you with the information.

    If journalists engage in personal attacks as a matter of course, then its time to switch who you read if they bother you that mush.  Their bosses will get the message if the reader #'s drop enough.

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    Doublehappys 6 months

    If by SJW, you mean a reasonable voice that rightful calls out Warmington for his bombastic pandering  and offensive couched racism. Don't confuse social justice with someone willing to call out a hack journalist who wallows in nationalist nonsense to push a questionable agenda. Good luck to him trying to push any legal action on this either.

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    Bora 6 months

    It was more like an hour of Shannon kissing butt or the few times when he wasn't doing that he was jumping in with his know it all comments and stories.

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    Antonio 6 months

    Blair is a total SJW. The fact that he's not a 20-something female makes it really sad.

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    Mike V 6 months

    I don't get people who use "SJW" as an insult. Like being anti-racism is a bad thing now? 

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    Hans 6 months

    "SJW" isn't necessarily "anti-racism". IT's more a blanket statement used to describe the "always offended at everything"

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    Mike V 6 months

    In this case it is about anti-racism. But you're right, it's used in a variety of areas as a means to shut down the debate.

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    Tighthead 6 months

    Show me an example of someone always offended at everything to establish that SJW is not simply an ad hominem. It's a great way to avoid an actual discussion of the topic on its merits. 

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    Hans 6 months

    Look up "feminism" and "anti-feminism" on twitter and you'll see those that are offended at everything really quickly and why the SJW tag is thrown at therm or used by the same people as well.

    Personally I think it's really dumb that its so "with us or against us" with anything these days and that people can't debate/discuss many topics even things like politics/stances and what not in sports (to bring it back to the topic and what this place is about).

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    Tighthead 6 months

    You are complaining about a lack of debate and discussion while using ad hominems? Tell me you appreciate the irony  

    Give me me an example of someone offended you everything.  Second request, first reply woefully non-specific.  Don't tell me to do your work.  Don't say "go to twitter". 

    He who asserts must prove – a fundamental tenet of the debate and discussion you so crave. 

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    original Mitch 6 months

    While radio hosts have taken great advantage of our SJW society where we are literally offended by everything, I feel Blair is somewhat genuine in his plea. I'm not sure why, but I buy it. Idiots like Jamie Campbell, those guys without an ounce of integrity are clearly doing it because it's a "popular" movement. But Blair? Strikes me as a little anti-establishment in his views. I respect that because he's earned it.

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    Frank 6 months

    Bob Cole is hugely overrated. I'll admit that he's improved a little bit, he is familiar with the player's names now, but he still doesn't understand possession and delayed penalties. And like a lot of  PxP people he never knows when to shut up, he wants to do it all. He should've been retired years ago.

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    Big G 6 months

    We Canadians love to highly overrate our Athletes, broadcasters etc. I've heard people describe Mike Wilner as a "Great" broadcaster, Seriously!!!!!! We put athletes like former Blue Jays John Macdonald, Kawasaki, Toronto Maple Leafs Tie Domi on pedestals. Mediocrity has become our standard of excellence, since greatness cannot be held onto in Canada. Pretty sad for the physiological state of the fans. Boy mediocrity is so beloved here I can't imagine what it will be like when greatness actually hit's this Toronto marketplace, brings home a championship and sticks around till retirement

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    Cirroc 6 months

    I only briefly came across the Warmington piece.  I was more referencing Blair's blathering on about the Cleveland baseball club nickname.

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    TommyD 6 months

    I heard Andrew Walker's remarks regarding Pillar. Even though I don't think he articulated his thought as well as I suspect he would have liked, I totally understood and agreed with what he was getting at regarding the connection between Pillar's faith and his popularity. I am Jewish and did not feel even the slightest twinge of anti-Semitism in the remarks, as has been suggested by a few people.

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    Rob Gibson 6 months

    Spot on with Bob Cole!  Why do have to listen to the insufferable Hughson? (my skin crawls when I hear "Fakes – Takes!")  Makes the games 100x more exciting with Cole making the call the man is a legend and we are being denied the opportunity to hear a legend.  On top of that, Hughson is clearly a Canucks fan so at the very least we deserve an unbiased play-by-play call.

    Bring back Bob Cole – please!!!

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    Lemmon 6 months

    I've never understood this take.

    Why is it "SJW" to want people to be respected? To not be racist? SJW is just an excuse angry white dudes use as a catch-all to basically saying they can't be as freely racist as they used to be. Now someone challenges them and calls on them to change. They've shown an inability to do so thus far because of takes like this. 

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    Lemmon 6 months

    Agreed. 

    It basically means that people are getting called on their racism now and they don't like it/don't want to change. I'd rather be an "SJW" than someone who doesn't care about any opions other than their own. 

    As you said, it's used as a phrase to immediately shut down a conversation. 

    They'd rather insult someone than treat them with respect. Says more about them than it does the "SJWs"

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    cirroc 6 months

    I wouldn't necessarily agree with that statement.  There are plenty of SJWs out there just looking to get outraged at something and it doesn't have to be angry white dudes.  Just look at the recent kerfuffle regarding the pictures of physically fit men and women used in the Toronto subway ads.  

    With all the social media these days it doesn't take much to have an issue snowball and I'm willing to bet a good majority of the people pushing the issue haven't or aren't capable of stepping back to think logically about their position before going all in.  Full steam ahead without considering other sides of the coin.  

    Regarding the Indians surname, somebody else in another thread brought up the possibility that the name was never intended to be racist in the first place.  I may be naive, but I would think that is the case.  Who would go to the trouble to nickname their baseball team something to be derided?  It seems absurd.  Besides, I don't think you, I, or a radio personality should be the one to decide whether or not the nickname is still appropriate.

    I think its a far leap to call somebody in favour of keeping the nickname a racist. 

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    QuinnerNorth 6 months

    Nice take Mitch. I'm old enough to know that Blair has always gone against the grain in his career. He's never been afraid to challenge the powers that be. 

    Bob Cole had some bad moments – forgetting names etc. – but he's really made a nice comeback the past couple of years. After Vin Scully there should never be a question of age being a disqualifying factor.

     

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    Bobby G 6 months

    Warmington may be a hack but the guy calling him out is a hack radio broadcaster if there ever was one. I call this one a draw. Back to neutral corners and let’s hope Bliar comes out swinging at something he knows something about for change. There is nothing more cringeworthy than when Blair opens his yap about something other than baseball. It’s going to be a long winter, especially if he feels compelled to talk about t the Leafs.

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    Anthony 6 months

    Social Justice Warrior is put into a negative context when its felt that some use it to make themselves look good. 

    'Oh look at Scott, he cares about civil rights so much'

    It often happens from those who come from privilege yet are insecure about themselves so they say things they don't truly believe in just to get popular with a certain group of people.

    Its pretty shady, a good description here

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=social%20justice%20warrior

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    Robinaurora 6 months

    I'm listening to Leafs Lunch….Andi Petrillo is definitely the "Jar-Jar Binks" of sports radio in Toronto. I want to listen to the show for the other hosts and insiders etc, but I have to put up with her and it is really tough…Just like Star Wars fans flocked to that movie to see what happens in the latest Star Wars plot line, they had to put up with Jar-Jar Binks. "Cloying" doesn't quite cut it as a description…."Cloying to the exponent 10" comes close….

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    Cirroc 6 months

    Easy @Robinaurora, you might just be a misogynist if you don't enjoy Petrillo.  I don't mind her so much, but I can see why someone that wants to listen to a strictly sports related show could be put off by her.  I had to wonder about Kristen Shilton today as well when she was describing not knowing who the third goalie on the ice at Leafs practice was.  "He took off his mask and we asked around and someone said it was Kari Ramo".  THAT'S your beat reporter?  

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    Darcy 6 months

    Can't tell if you're being serious, or sarcastic with the "mysongist" comment.

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    Hans 6 months

    After listening to Prime Time Sports tonight and specifically the roundtable: If John Shannon isn't an employee of the NHL in some way given his heated defence of the league no matter what was said then he's the biggest shill in sports radio today.

    Also, good on Bob and especially Damian Cox for taking John to task on several of his statements when he treid backtracking whenever the league wasn't shown in the best of lights even after Shannon made the initial point trying to praise the league.

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    Paul G. 6 months

    I was thinking exactly the same thing,  as I watched (SN360) the show.  While I thought it was a weak argument in the past,  I can understand why some who post on this forum believe that Shannon only survives the budget cuts because of the NHL's influence with SN.

    This aside,  he was his usual rude self tonight.  God forbid another guest should be entitled to speak without being interrupted!

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    Sam In Scarb 6 months

    Thanks for the 2 updates on Friday's PTS.

    I turned on TV/PTS at 5:01 pm saw shannon and off it went.

    Wonder if I was the only person who missed all the paid advertisements.Hummm

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    robinauroa 6 months

    Kristin Shilton is light. They are either saving money or its a gender equity hire and they can’t find anyone more qualified. Shes young and inexperienced so she isn’t going to recognize someone like Ramo…not making excuses, but that’s not a high profile job.

    Andi knows her stuff well enough, it’s her cloying personality. When she’s on TV, she stays on task and she does fine. Her sense of humour (or lack of one) doesn’t work on that show. It’s just awkward. I notice the guests squirming (which is quite a feat on a radio show…it’s audible sqirming)

    PTS listeners need to give Overdrive a chance. Its far superior entertainment value and better hockey talk. They get great guests and TSN’s insiders are the best in the business (I am not an employee, just telling then truth). Steve Philips was the best baseball insider in Canada this year and last…TSN has nothing else worth listening to, but Overdirive is quite good.

    McCown is an old fart who bloviates about the business of sport ad nauseum. If there is a faster way to rob a topic of its enjoyment, talk about the money involved. Shannon and Cox are just horrible too. All I hear is people talking about how bad PTS is… give it up guys