No Valentines Day For Mike Toth

Old Tother probably is sleeping on the couch tonight. Everyone seems to have an opinion on the Erin Andrews thing, and according to the Globe and Mail, Mike Toth expressed his opinion today:

“On The Fan 590, Rogers Sportsnet host Mike Toth suggested that young women including Sportsnet co-workers Martine Gaillard and Evanka Osmak get by with less than perfect knowledge of sports.

“This is going to sound harsh,” Toth said. “But be that as it may, here it comes: There are no female sportscasters that I can think of that have more knowledge than their male counterparts.”

Toth also suggested that women at his network get more promotional outings and publicity because of their looks: “From a public relations standpoint, do you want Mike Toth to MC your golf tournament? … The females within the confines of Sportsnet’s newsroom get more of an opportunity to do that sort of thing.”

WOW- Give Toth full marks for one thing, putting it out there. I have no problem with Toth if he really believes that. I think it’s an asinine comment, but I fully respect him for speaking his mind and giving his opinion. Unlike others who hide behind innuendo and other comments, Toth has definitely told it like he thinks it is.

I can think of instances in my life where I have felt that a woman sportscaster was more knowledgeable than some of her male counterparts. The Red Wings had a beat writer name Cynthia Lambert that comes to mind. Helene Elliott, an LA based hockey writer is more knowledgeable than some of her male counterparts on the beat across the league. Furthermore, isn’t knowledgeable a subjective test. I mean do sports journalists ever get tested??? I think this is a pretty ignorant comment by Toth. He is entitled to his opinion…I just happen to think he is ignorant.

I don’t get those who are saying things along the lines of Andrews’ getting what she deserves. The fact that someone bugged two different hotel rooms of hers is scary. How do we know that those rooms aren’t still bugged. No matter what she has said, what she has worn, how she looks, or how knowledgeable she is, there is no way she deserved this.


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David Johnson
July 23, 2009 11:48 pm

I am not going to try and defend Mike Toth but he did say sportscaster (i.e. readers of news) and not beat writer or hockey writer. I don’t know any female sportscasters personally so I have no idea if he is right, but sportscasters jobs aren’t really to be deeply knowledgeable about sports but rather to be able to present sports news to the public and I know of a lot of people who are very knowledgeable about sports that would do a horrible job as a sportscaster, myself included. Newsrooms have researchers and analysts to help out in terms of in depth sports knowledge. I am sure there are many people at CNN, male and female, that haven’t a clue about what they are reporting much of the time but are there for their ability to present the news in an informative and entertaining manner for the viewers. Are ones physical appearance a factor in this? Sure, and that applies to both sexes. Why do you think Mike Toth was shifted to radio? 🙂

July 24, 2009 1:25 am

Isn’t he the same guy who said Doc Halladay was a jerk for not talking to the media. He lost all credibility when he said that and this is as ignorant as ever

July 24, 2009 2:43 am

Toth is right, and any counterexamples that people could point to are simply the exception not the rule.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

July 24, 2009 3:38 am

Where the hell should I start?

I just assumed Toth was a C-lister at Sportsnet behind the likes of Osmak and Gaillaird because he can’t properly pronounce the word “the”. Add that to the fact that Osmak and Gaillaird probably don’t overuse the phrases “gosh”, “the heck”, “gee whillikers”, and “when I was in Calgary”, nor do they refer to themselves as a third-person nickname.

He has mentioned before that his wife works behind the camera for Sportsnet. Wonder if he feels the same way about her. Surely there are more qualified men than Mrs. Toth that could do your wife’s job. I mean it takes some muscle to move that camera around, doesn’t it?

TV is about presentation and personality and chemistry with a co-host, something Toth has little of in any concept, and if he ever did, he surely realizes his biological clock is ticking in it.

I mean, discrimination is discrimination, right? Does he really think calling out his bosses in a time of economic despair in the industry by suggesting his female colleagues aren’t as “qualified” to do what he does because they couldn’t name all 6 defensemen on the 1989 Calgary Flames, for example?

You can agree with him on the subject matter, but you can’t deny it’s a stupid, stupid thing to say, but consider the speaker.

He just made his bosses’ job real easy at either 590 or Sportsnet when it comes to more job cuts. Why would you be happy about sharing the desk with him again if you’re either female he referenced?

I will say this, if either Osmak or Gaillaird had gained weight like you have, Mike, they’d be fretting for their jobs. Only a male would be allowed to tip the scales about where Aretha Franklin pushes them, and be able to anchor a TV sportscast. So you and your man-boobs benefit there.

Erin Andrews also does some obscure events like Thursday night college football games between Rice and Texas Tech. Don’t you think if she didn’t do loads of research, given the fascination about her online, we’d have seen lots of youtube bloopers of her errors? She simply doesn’t make them. She’s smooth, stylish, and studies hard to be good at what she does.

Erin Andrews is better at her job than Mike Toth is at his. He knows it. A couple years from now when he’s doing the 11pm in Yellowknife, he might even admit it.

July 24, 2009 10:04 am

Holy rant Julian.

I think you are missing the point here. Toth is claiming that women get by with less than perfect sports knowledge.

Really this is nothing we don’t already know and it’s not even exclusive to sports. If you take a good looking woman with decent (but not great) domain knowledge of any industry, she is going to blow by a lot of other people with superior domain knowledge who just aren’t female or as attractive. It’s the way the world spins – attractiveness is valued.

Mike D
Mike D
July 24, 2009 12:51 pm

ChuChu – are you serious? “Toth is claiming that women get by with less than perfect sports knowledge. Really this is nothing we don’t already know and it’s not even exclusive to sports.” Geez – we can think of two women (Osmak, Gaillaird) who apparently have gotten by at sportsnet with less than perfect knowledge. The number of men also employed by Rogers with less than perfect sports knowledge? Toth, Berger, Campbell, Smith, etc. etc. Give me a break….

July 24, 2009 2:02 pm

I will say it again. Erin Andrews is far better at her job than Mike Toth is at his. Sara Orlesky is far better at her job than Mike Toth is at his. I don’t even think Toth is energetic enough or lacks enough laziness to be a sideline reporter.

Think about it, Toth when the other 8-9 anchors who rank ahead of him on the food chain, comes in and reads a teleprompter. No preparation needed. I didn’t say no talent. Just no preparation.

If Erin Andrews has to do a college basketball game between Iowa and Indiana, she’d have to almost study as hard as if she was calling the game with Brent Musberger. She would go to a meeting with each head coach, and probably do a couple pre-interviews with players for the real big football games.

She works way harder and knows more about the sports she covers than Mike Toth does about anything. He reads the site, I would bet.

Again, if the guy could properly pronounce the word “the”, it’d be a nice start.

July 24, 2009 3:01 pm

What exactly are you arguing? Was the original quote “men are better than women at this job”? You have taken Toth’s quote, spun off into something else and then gone off on a mouth frothing tangent about it.

Mike S
Mike S
July 24, 2009 3:09 pm

For the record, I was not offended by Julian making fun of Toth’s weight

July 24, 2009 10:41 pm

I think this is a fireable offense. Imagine if he said the same thing about someone who’s black or someone religion and make a comment in saying no one of a certain demo is smarter than anyone in another demo

But should we be surprised. Look at the line up on the radio station. This is the most diverse city in the world and from morning to prime time all we have is host after host being an old white guy. The Fan590 looks like a GOP convention on the weekdays than it does a sports radio lineup. If Toth still on the roster than it proves it’s the old white misogynist club.

I found Gaillard, and other women a hell of a lot better at their job than Toth who isn’t good at anything he does. He’s horrible on TV and then on radio he’s awful and ratings have dropped on that time spot in the last year (does anyone care about his western hockey stories)

It was pathetic to hear him today saying “He has more knowledge than any woman he worked with” what kind of patheitc loser claims that about yourself, it’s funny that i NEVER heard anyone compliment him for his sports knowledge or any talent. It’s funny everyone has their favorites and different opinion on talents, but I never heard anyone think that he is any good on TV or radio, so how did he get his job??

July 27, 2009 9:57 am

Mike Toth did not say that women sporstcasters are bad at there job. If people actually listenend to the radio exchange with Evanka Osmak they would know that (instead of just reading Dowbiggen, who just picked out parts of his comments)

He said they don’t have the same sports knowledge as men, but he also said that a lot of the women he works with are the best broadcasters around. So don’t twist the words around. It is isn’t fair to Toth or the women sportscasters

There is a difference.

Jack K
September 27, 2011 12:55 am

Sorry: Have to agree with Toth. Also think its terrible having women doing commentary on men’s SPORTS.

“Isn’t that right BABY”!


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