Toronto Sunday Sports Rumblings

So, let’s see the Jays are on a run. Come stats “geeks” tell me how much further along they were last year. Even if they were, this team feels a hell of a lot different than the squads in the past, especially those managed by JP. 25,000 fans were at the Dome today. 2nd highest turnout of the season. Is that the start of something????? Let’s hope so.

So, LeBron got broomed from the playoffs and the folks in Cleveland have already decided they don’t want the door to hit him on the way out. Man, you think people ripped Bosh- take a look at the Cavs message boards and newspapers….Wow.

Did you see this in the NY Daily News?:

“If James leaves the Cavs, the value of the franchise is projected to drop as much as $150 million, according to league execs. The Cavs are valued at $450 million-475 million”

Is that all????? no really, from the little I know I would have thought the figure to be at least 50% of the value. Maybe I’m an idiot.

Here’s the question I have to ask. What does Bosh’s apparent imminent departure do on the value of the Raptors? Stop laughing. I don’t think the value actually goes up. The question is how much, if any does the value go down?

Did anyone notice the cover of yesterday’s Toronto Sun? The byline at the bottom was about Phil Kessel- something about Boston missing Kessel- the suggestion was that with Kessel the Bruins would still be playing. Funny thing was that there was nothing in the paper about Kessel.

Then this appeared in today’s Toronto Sun:

“Two questions that were asked in Boston the other night: 1) Do the Bruins beat the Flyers with Phil Kessel in the lineup? 2) And do they play for the Cup if they had kept him? …”

That from Steve Simmons. Here’s the thing I don’t get. I scoured the Boston press. I didn’t see that question anywhere. I didn’t see Kessel’s name ANYWHERE but the Sun. Maybe I’m crazy. The Kessel trade will be debated for a long time. There are people out there who tell us all the time how much better the kids being drafted this year will be then Kessel. Every time that kid scores we will hear it. So when I say this, I know there is no chance of it happening – but can we give it a rest??? I mean enough already- at least until the weekend before the draft when it is all we are going to be hearing.

Speaking of lame- did you see the story in the Sun (and no I am not picking on the Sun intentionally) about what if the Leafs were still in the playoffs instead of the Habs? I know it’s tough coming up with material to write about these days- but geez talk about the bottom of the barrel.

Lastly, he isn’t entirely back but have you heard Norm Rumack as a guest on HNIC radio on Sirus satelite radio? He’s a hockey analyst and managing editor of Personally, I preferred him when he was just on really late at night. Rumack was good at interviewing. Analysis? Not so much.

Lastly, whatever the hell the name of the current hockey tournament that’s going on overseas is- am I the only one who thinks it should be shelved. I am mean does anyone care about it at all?



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mike (in Boston)
mike (in Boston)
May 16, 2010 10:59 pm

there was some mention of Kessel on the radio shows over the weekend but basically people here are pumped about the #2 oick. the consensus seems to be that injuries caught up with this team but the future looks good thanks to the Leafs.

Rumack would drive me nuts with his 2 minute questions. I understand that you want to set up for a good answer but he would go on and on about what he thought and then ask for confirmation from the guest. He peaked when he would fight with the callers. After that shtick ran out there wasn’t much left in my opinion.

lastly, McCown is the new “Torchy” in toronto. His interview with Beeston re: the Halladay series was nothing short of a press release for his pal. He didn’t press on any of the contentious issues (neutral site, timing of the decision, the financial upside for Rogers). Shill.

Mike S
Mike S
May 17, 2010 2:01 am

I am a Bruins fan who is still in mourning but I was able to get out of the fetal position long enough to write the following:

When people like Simmons say that the Bruins could have used Kessel they seem to forget that they would have had to pay him over $4 million to keep him (the Leafs ended up paying him $5.4 million) and they didn’t have much cap room…………they would have had to get rid of someone like Krejci to keep Kessel

May 17, 2010 3:37 pm

I think we’ll still see some rough crowds (probably tonight) but I do think the Jays have probably turned a corner toward more respectable attendance overall. Probably a slow and steady rise.

The weather is getting nicer, and people are realizing that there is life after Halladay and that the future looks promising.

TSM – you mentioned a while ago that the Jays should have a ‘dog and pony show’ at the games. I disagreed at the time, but I’m starting to think you’re right. The Jays had ‘cap day’ yesterday, hardly an over the top promotion, and got a really nice crowd.

In a year with such negative expectations and a frustrated fanbase, I think it would have made more sense to ramp up the promotions, instead of pretty much shutting them down (which they did). Even if it’s a wash financially, the optics are so much better.

As an interesting comparison, Ken Rosenthal wrote an article about how much Tampa Bay has been struggling to get crowds, even with a first place team. They’ve actually got acts like ZZ Top and Nelly to play concerts after their Saturday games. Can you imagine that?

So, I suppose it’s good in a financial sense that the Jays low attendance numbers are coming without any discounts or promotions. But still, I think they could do a lot more.

May 17, 2010 4:49 pm

Good topics and replies. I listened to the Jays postgame show but didn’t watch the game. I heard Wilmer talk about a great crowd and I thought they hit 30 thousand, when i heard it was 25 I thought the bar was really lowered this year on a good crowd. Most of the time free stuff brings in some more casual fans along being with a weekend. There is some all you can eat events coming up, we’ll see how that goes.

MikeS, good and you would think obvious point on the Kessel thing. With Kessel that would be a large chunk of their cap to go along with it, which means there current team wouldn’t be in tact. Initial write up is correct the hockey writing is so grasping at any straws of a story for their hockey content.

MikeBos, I find an appreciation for Rumack especially after his replacements. Rumack isn’t the perfect host but he’s better than his replacements. I thought it was good when he tried to change himself up from “yelling homer” to a more overall sports talk guy. Too many guys stay the same their entire careers. Sometimes he falls too much to the same guest (like Devellano which now Lajoie keeps going to). Rumack isn’t an inspired host that I go out of my way to listen to, but he doesn’t make me switch the station like some of the guys who replaced him like Thomas (who thank goodness isn’t on as much now) and Sammut (who works at the worst morning show in the city and bringing it to late night, he freakin awful)

You think McCown goes soft on Beeston (and he does) It’s nothing like whenever he interviews anybody from the CFL. Talk about a shill job. As for Bosh, I don’t think he’s a huge difference maker, losing him will hurt the team, but I don’t think he was this franchise face like Carter was (for all his faults) Bosh might be a better leader and teammate, but Carter was really the Raps famous face to bring in the casual fans to take notice of the team.

May 18, 2010 10:46 am

The whcs might be boring here in na but in Europe they are very popular. I heard someone compare it to the wjcs here: Canadians love the wjcs but nobody else Does, thus other countries couldn’t car less if they were cancelled.

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