The New Fan 590 Lineup?

So…..

This is what I am hearing the new Fan 590 lineup looks like for now

6-9 Morning show with some fill ins until permanent replacement is found
9-12 Andrew Krystal
12-2 Hockey Central with Greg Brady as host
2-3 The Greg Brady show
3-6 Prime Time Sports with Bob Mccown
6-7 Blue Jays/Raptors pre-game

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Raptors Devotee
Raptors Devotee
June 24, 2010 11:21 am

This is really disheartening. The FAN has the rights to the Raptor broadcasts yet they are basically replacing the hard core basketball guys with hockey talk. Obviously this is ratings driven, and I wonder if they will be relinquishing their rights to the Raptors at this point, given the bleak future for the team.

If you can find out how much coverage basketball is going to get with the new line-up it would be appreciated.

lt67
lt67
June 24, 2010 11:41 am

Still scratching my head re: Brady….If the morning show is the profile slot (next to the McCown slot) and they have turfed the morning show guys….Why not put Brady in the morning slot? Not sure why Stellick had to go…with a good lead like Brady, he’d be just fine. As for Landry, well….I can’t say i’m going to miss him…and he seems to fit the profile of what 640 is looking for….I guess it wouldn’t be surprising if he ends up there. Krystal? Weird based on his comments to TSM….He could have said “no comment” or simply not replied.

sg
sg
June 24, 2010 11:44 am

I like the fact that McCown will be pre-empted less (I think?)

Stephen Lewis
Stephen Lewis
June 24, 2010 12:00 pm

I think that you’re suggested line up is just a tad wrong – The Brady show will go to from 2-4pm.

Steve-O
June 24, 2010 12:03 pm

With Sportsnet taking over The Score and CBC’s Raptors games, it makes sense to see them stay at Fan 590, though the fate of E. Smith and Jack is up in the air and Paul Jones was part of the last Fan personality survey.

Raptors Devotee
Raptors Devotee
June 24, 2010 12:08 pm

Steve-O, that is a good point about who has the television broadcasting rights and how it crosses over to other Rogers properties. I am not sure how long the FAN has the Raptors broadcast rights for, but given the crossover to Sportsnet especially, it will likely stay.

Mike S
Mike S
June 24, 2010 12:46 pm

This is hard to believe…………I think we all agree that 590 needs changes but I don’t know if these are the ones I would make……………I agree with Lt67…………..if they are going to make a change to the morning show they should put Brady there.

I would be SHOCKED if they moved McCown back an hour to make way for a Jays or Raptors pre-game show………….there are many nights where neither team plays at 7:00 so what would they do on those nights?…………meanwhile the current 6:00 hour of PTS is syndicated all across Canada and is on TV as well so that has to come into play here somewhere

Duane Rollins
June 24, 2010 12:51 pm

I’m actually pissed at this. They have taken the two general interest shows — The Game Plan and Hogan — and turfs them for puckheads. They are aware that it isn’t 1952 anymore, right? Toronto isn’t made up of lily white farm-boys who have moved into the city to send money back to the homestead. The ratings *might* take a slight bump, but the demographics are gonna suck. If you are younger than 30, or brown, or not from Leaside, you’re just going to be driven further onto the Internet for your sports news and entertainment.

One more hour of McCown is Ok though. It doesn’t make up for the loss of the rest, but…

lewickipedia
lewickipedia
June 24, 2010 1:01 pm

Bobcat is moving down to 3pm. That seems cemented. But ridding on-air talent like Hogan and Smith & Armstrong doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

Sounds to me like Nelson Millman leaving opened the door for a Rogers-affiliated corporate crony to run the show.

lewickipedia
lewickipedia
June 24, 2010 1:03 pm

Sorry, one more thing. Considering Hogie has been with the station since Day 1, I think it would have been approriate to let him have a last show to say bye.

TIM
TIM
June 24, 2010 1:11 pm

I’m so happy that toe-rag Mike Hogan is gone. What a useless moron.

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 2:25 pm

Wow. I feel a bit mixed about it all.

Brady at noon followed by McCown at 3 is a pretty sweet 6 hour block. Plus, you never want to see people lose jobs, but I do think it made sense to move on from Stellick, Landry and Hogan.

But I’ll miss the GamePlan. Just heard them both on the radio saying that it was more or less a mutual decision (both had serious time constraints, particularly Jack since he lives in NY). Eric is also staying for Raptor broadcasts, and Jack is hanging around as a regular guest. Still, I enjoyed their show. Nice change from the noon hockey show. Maybe Jack could be an occaisional PTS cohost?

I also don’t really understand moving McCown’s show. It scored huge in the last ratings book – why mess with it? And what becomes of the 6 – 7 hour? Maybe Wilner and Eric Smith do Jays/Raptor talk in there? I would be interested in that.

I hope the new program director doesn’t shift the Fan too far into hockey talk at the expense of stuff like The GamePlan. I know this is a hockey nuts city, but I always liked how the Fan treated all 3 Toronto teams pretty evenhandedly.

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 2:27 pm

Also – there is speculation on torontomike.com that Mike Richards is the new morning show host.

He was the morning cohost at the Fan about 15 years ago with Derringer. I think his show on The Fan in Calgary is currently considered the top sports morning show in the country.

pudge72
pudge72
June 24, 2010 2:27 pm

My thoughts on the changes:

– Glad the morning show is changing. I (as many others it would seem) thought that the show has been mailed in more or less over the past year. I stopped listening to 590 before 9 am about three months ago.
I agree with previous comments that a Brady/Stellick pairing could work quite well, if it gave Stellick a chance to get away from the strict sports format a little bit (I was a fan of the afternoon Stellick/Diguolio…sorry about spelling…program)

– Very Sad to see Mike Hogan go…is he staying for Argos’ broadcasts?…as I (unlike many comment writers here) enjoyed his show, especially when did open line topics like “your favorite sports moment”, etc.

– Couldn’t stand the Millard/Kypreos/MacLean combo…too many “insider” type gossip/jokes. I stopped listening to the 12 – 2 pm time slot quite awhile ago.

– McCown can still do his show ending at six and all syndicated stations (i.e. 1290 in London, and 570 in Kitchener) can still run the 5 – 6 pm hour starting at 6 pm, off of tape, instead of simulcasting it directly. I believe 570 currently runs the 6 – 7 pm hour starting at 7 pm.

On a side note from a previous posting…is the Mike Richards in Calgary the same guy that often did the overnight slot on 1430/Fan 590 back in the 1990’s? Most of his comedy skits were awesome! He should come back to T.O.

SLew
SLew
June 24, 2010 2:31 pm

That was Jim Richards, now on CFRB

Sean
June 24, 2010 2:47 pm

I am very sad to hear that Mike Hogan is gone. From what I have read on other message boards he will be missed by more then me.

I agree, after all the work that he put in, he should have been given the opportunity to say goodbye.

That said, the fact that the new program director refuses to pick up a phone and return calls from media people, speaks to a few things. Nelson always was there to answer questions, this new person seems to be more interested in hiding his head in the sand.

jcscott
jcscott
June 24, 2010 3:36 pm

I agree with Mike S….while the Fan590 does need some sort of change canning Landry and Stellick just doesn’t seem right….both have been mainstays at the Fan for well over 10 years. The prior morning show of Marsden and Landry was great…God Bless Pat Marsden….not only are the morning show hosts gone but so is Mike Hogan. Who will do Football Friday’s? The thing I liked about Hogan was he was very passionate about football namely the CFL; CIAU; and boxing. Nobody else on the Fan hardly ever mentions a thing about boxing other than say McCowan. The change the Fan is looking isn’t in the personnel it should be in the programming of WAY TOO MUCH HOCKEY. Specifically Leafs hockey. Hey its June and all the talk is about the Leafs and they don’t even have a 1st round pick….by the way there are other major sports franchises in Toronto other than the Leafs….remember the Jays, Raptors, Argos and TFC? The Fan is a all sports station….I think its about time they began to show it.

Al from Burlington
Al from Burlington
June 24, 2010 3:43 pm

Am I the only one on this board that has had enough of Mccown? He is an old man with the same old boring guests and thoughts. His ‘I am always right” attitude is tiring.

SLew
SLew
June 24, 2010 3:52 pm

Ratings don’t lie.
If he was by himself, I might end up thinking the same way – it’s the rotation of the personalities sitting at the table with him that matters and keeps it fresh.
Especially the Friday Roundtable.
This format is the reason I listen and I’m pissed that they’re screwing with the normal time slot.

lewickipedia
lewickipedia
June 24, 2010 3:55 pm

Don Kollins did the same thing with the controversy surrounding Mike Wilner. He ducked questions and locked himself in his office. I think this market will eat him up. This isn’t Kitchener, Don.

Sean
June 24, 2010 4:14 pm

Bob confirmed today that the new time slot will be 3-6, and said the he did not think that it was a good idea.

Kollins really is not making a positive name for himself. I think he needs to be vocal about why the changes where made, not hide under his desk.

lewickipedia
lewickipedia
June 24, 2010 4:17 pm

I may not be the biggest fan of Bobcat but at least I know he’ll tell it like it is. And he did just that. Doesn’t believe 3pm is a great slot and not sure how it affects Sportsnet viewing. Also, doesn’t agree with all of the decisions but he’ll wait and see.

Mike
Mike
June 24, 2010 4:22 pm

Actually SLew, both Mike and Jim Richards (no relation) worked for the FAN in the early 1990s. Mike was a sidekick to Derringer and Jim hosted the show right afterwards.

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 4:27 pm

He also mentioned that there will occasionally be a replay of an hour of PTS between 6 – 7.

Is it just me or is that a horrendous idea? Nobody wants to listen to replays that early in the day. Just sounds like a chance to save money. I’d prefer an hour of Wilner/Smith/Whoever doing Jays/Raps/Leafs talk.

Of all the moves so far, I really think moving McCown to 3 – 6 is the most questionable. You’d think there be more people listening from 6-7 than 3-4 (Though correct me if I’m wrong). And whether you like McCown or not, you can’t really argue with the success and longevity of his show. This new guy comes in and immediately messes with it?

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 4:33 pm

Also – kudos to TSM for being on top of this story for a while..

Bruce
Bruce
June 24, 2010 4:34 pm

I am glad Hogan is gone. He was useless.
The morning show should not have M.Apple…this is a Sports show not Stock Market mumble jumbles. You the FAN should have more Hockey talk show so that the fans can call in and voice their frustrations about the Leafs. The next one to go is Bob Mcowan he is too damn cocky and don’t know anything about Hockey, Soccer or Football. Get rid of him!

Sean
June 24, 2010 4:41 pm

With all due respect, Bob McCown is the highest rated sports personality in Toronto. The fact that you dislike him has nothing to do with his documented success.

I do not understand the rational of moving Prime Time, which is picked up nation wide, and is the FAN’s most successful program. Why would you mess with a good thing? Good on Bob for saying as much.

I hope someone can break down the door to Kollins office and actually get some sort of quote from him. God forbid we actually get a rational for some of these moves.

john t
john t
June 24, 2010 4:47 pm

Are you kidding me? Darren millards show was my favorite! He is a pleasure to listen to. Whenever Brady goes off on a rant a change the station back to the fan! When he asks a guest a question, it takes forever and drives me nuts! I will not listen to the fan until mccowen comes on. Bad move. I loved landry and selleck’s humour. Bad move. Armstrong was great. Bad move.

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 4:47 pm

Yeah, saying ‘the next one to go is Bob McCown’ is pretty silly.

He had a 10.8 share last book, and his main competition just lost its cohost to The Fan. He is the absolute face of the station.

I could only see him leaving if he gets fed up and decides to go himself. The Fan wouldn’t let him go (and if they did he’d resurface somewhere in about 5 minutes).

Jeff
Jeff
June 24, 2010 6:02 pm

As a listener, I would have liked to have the opportunity to be told why the changes have been made, and what the rational was.

Had Nelson Millman been in charge, he would have made a public announcement on Bob’s show. He has done it before.

I guess, as a listened, Don Kollins does not care that we have an interest in the station. I guess that my passion for the FAN is misplaced.

Raptors Devotee
Raptors Devotee
June 24, 2010 6:27 pm

Jeff, I totally agree with you. I left Kollins a voicemail message today asking for a return call and an explanation on the changes, mainly with respect to the basketball coverage that has clearly taken a hit.

Millman would 100% have been on the air with McCown like you said today explaining the changes. Not even a news release on it. Totally unacceptable.

With this kind of an attitude I am rethinking how I listen to the station. If the PD does not care about the audience, why should I care about his station?

Jeff
Jeff
June 24, 2010 6:36 pm

I guess its just not that important to him to inform the listeners of his motivation.

I know he is new to his position, and probably feels a little overwhelmed, however how am I suppose to buy into the changes of the Program Director wont even talk about them?

I hope someone, be it Houston, TSM, Zelkovich, or whomever gets a comment out of him, its gotten embarrassing.

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 8:49 pm

A new article on it from Zelkovich:

http://www.thestar.com/article/828328–zelkovich-radical-surgery-reshapes-fan-590

Kollins comments a bit. Says Hogan might come back in some role. I hope so. He seems like a good guy. Maybe as a morning update guy to replace Rick Ralph?

Also says to expect The Fan to bid for Leaf rights.

Sheila
Sheila
June 24, 2010 8:53 pm

I heard about the shakeup at Fan 590 and I am not very impressed with the the changes, especially to Hockey Central at Noon. I just hope Doug McLean isn’t replaced as an analyst.

donscott
donscott
June 24, 2010 9:04 pm

Personally, the morning show was unfunny. Landry was over his head the moment he took over the morning show, he should have never been doing anything more than updates.
I like Stellick, but the stories are old now.
He was a GM by default and only for mere months at that.
Hogan was good for football, but that is it.
The topics he brought to his show were brutal.
This new format does seem puck heavy

Brian
Brian
June 24, 2010 9:57 pm

I agree that Landry and Stellick have really been getting on my nerves. Hoagie seemed very interested in doing cfl topics, other stuff not so much. I used to be able to listen to Mcowan from 5-7, but now i’ll only be listening to the fan from 5-6. How many people can really listen from 3-4, doesn’t anybody work? I don’t know about the new format being puck heavy though, I don’t see Mike Richards, Andrew Krystal, and Bob Mcowan as pure hockey guys. Definitely Brady is a puckhead, but I’m assuming the Fan wants the Leafs inside sources (air what people want).

I feel bad for Rick Ralph, though, he’s been through a hell of a lot this past year, and I think he does a good job with the updates.

Should be interesting, regardless

flatline
flatline
June 24, 2010 10:08 pm

The real culprit for this fire sale is actually the incredibly crap-ness (note: not yet a word) of all Toronto sports teams.

What the hell can people talk about? That Brian is doing…”something” (it doesn’t matter which one) or that MLSE is evil or that Cito is incompetent or what?

The reason McCowan is so popular is because, paradoxically, he’s not a sports personality at all. And he’ll be the first to tell you. He’s interested in the stories (usually caustic ones, but that’s a separate thing).

So in this survival of the fittest, McCowan is the only one that thrives because he can endure even another 20 years of lousy sports teams.

The rest of them can’t. You can’t have a thriving, functional all-sports station in a town where basically all of the sports teams suck. You can just have a McCowan station.

Oh, and I will say this much before going to eat my ice cream sandwich: say what you want about Hogan, but he was NEVER rude to a caller (at least not that I can remember). Maybe that made him boring. Maybe that makes ME boring. But I guess in the bizzaro world where I live in, not telling your customers that they’re idiots is…sensible (are you reading this, Mike Wilner?)

Mmmmm ice cream sannnddwiiichhhhhh

Daniel
Daniel
June 24, 2010 10:18 pm

Though I’m worried about The Fan becoming too puck heavy as well, I guess we should see who gets the morning shows before we can really tell. Plus I assume Brady will branch out after the hockey segment of his show.

What the heck happens to The Watters Show now? How far does this set them back? Where do they go now?

Sean
June 24, 2010 10:42 pm

Im shocked that Kollins actually spoke to someone. Good on Zelkovich, Kollins is harder to find then Waldo. He still really seems over his head.

Im still not sold on this, I do not see how moving Mcowan to 3pm-6pm is “more”, in my mind its significantly less. Its less in Bob’s mind too evidently.

Happy to read that Hogan may be retained, he would be much better then Roger Lejoe in the jack of all trades role, as well as a football expert.

We shall see, but at this point im not holding my breath, Kollins has not impressed me at all.

I hope that they do not have Brain Hayes as the replacement, he Really, really struggles, but has been very, very prevalent recently.

Interesting times in Toronto non the less.

Capn2patch
Capn2patch
June 24, 2010 10:53 pm

*snicker*

Kollins is harder to find than Waldo.

*more snicker*

Raptors Devotee
Raptors Devotee
June 24, 2010 11:00 pm

The funniest quote from Zelkovich’s 2nd article was from Gord Stellick:

“Everything about it was stunning,” Stellick said hours after learning his 17-year career at The FAN had come to an end. “I don’t think anybody saw this coming.”

Unlike Landry, who took some potshots at the FAN on his way out, Stellick took the high road, other than the sarcasm noted above.

It is good to at least see Kollins comment on the changes. I have no idea why he has taken this long to surface, and even so, just with one sports media writer.

TSM, of you can get Kollins on The Press Box next week that would be quote the coup. While you have him get him to comment on Wilnergate. If you can accomplish both of these tasks then you are officially my hero.

judy
judy
June 24, 2010 11:06 pm

I am not happy about any of the changes. I enjoyed Laundry and Stellick in the morning as well as Mike Hogan when was able to hear him. I don’t know who the Brady guy is, but I don’t really think the Fan should be all hockey all the time. I don’t obsess over hockey. Don’t understand these changes and find it very frustrating.

Big Nickel
Big Nickel
June 25, 2010 5:45 am

I will miss Hogie!!! a breath of fresh air after the morning show which has been stale for years.

John Reid
John Reid
June 25, 2010 9:20 am

The only time I even bothered listening to The Fan was when football Friday was on, now that that is gone, so am I. You at The Fan can go puck yourselves.

Kman
Kman
June 25, 2010 1:13 pm

In some ways, I am not shocked that changes were made. That being said, from the human side of things, I feel for the three morning personalities (and off-air staff) who were let go. I think that things could have been spiced up a bit without having to terminate people’s employment. The PTS time change is certainly a mistake – who wants to listen to a repeat in one of the peak hours of the drive home slot – and a recent repeat at that? That is a joke for sure. Collins was the PD at 570 News, and turned that station into a monotonous robotic machine. Although the Fan may have gotten stale, I sure hope Collins doesn’t continue to suck the life and tradition out of this station. Maybe the next person to go should be Don Collins – just a thought.

Dave
Dave
June 25, 2010 10:11 pm

Stellicks’s “golly gee willickers” nice guy shtick got on my nerves. He was as compelling to listen to as transformer hum. Boring and almost as sophomoric as Peter Gross. Okay, maybe not that bad……

Anthony L
Anthony L
June 28, 2010 5:27 pm

I’m always goign to miss Gord and Don’s comedy routines and general likeabilities in them! Contrary to what some may think, they were also great interviewers and always had compellign material to speak of during their shows.

Nathan R
Nathan R
June 29, 2010 7:38 am

I was quite surprised about the changes to the morning show. I DO NOT LIKE the Doug Farraway and his rants! He’s like bobcat but with a soapbox…he seems to be always on a tirade! it’s sorta stressful to listen to. I will be changing stations soon if someone suitable doesn’t get inserted. I DO have give credit and say that this morning on the drive in between 6-7am there was little if anything discussed about hockey which was a nice change…they talked Raptors and Jays.

Larry H
Larry H
June 29, 2010 11:06 am

I am outraged that The Fan has fired Mike Hogan. I only switched to The Fan because of Mike Hogan (and Mike Toth). I will leave with him. I’m deleting The Fan from my car radio and taking their website from My Favourites. I won’t be back to The Fan Club. The Fan is dead as far as I’m concerned. Another dumb Rogers move. I wish I could dump them as my cable provider.

joe e
joe e
June 29, 2010 5:35 pm

I had over 1 million fan bonus points. Took me 5 years to get that many points. I cashed them out on a draw and lost.I am not bitter about that i am bitter about the fan firing Hogan Rumack and old Toth. I am sick of hearing the idiots they have now. Got game what a joke.Grown men playing foolish video games. I just subscribed to satellite radio. Bye Bye Fan 590.

Norm Turvill
Norm Turvill
June 30, 2010 7:50 am

There just can’t be a strong reason to move McCowan to a new time slot. I do believe the move will effect the Sportsnet ratings as I always felt it was a great choice to watch instead of some “fix your house show” that always seemed to motivate my wife to generate a new flurry of ideas that would find themselves posted on the fridge door.

Some listeners may comment in the negetive but this long time McCowan fan, beginning before The Fan was even an idea, thinks they are wrong.

No one has a deeper understanding of the business of sport and how one move within a team or league can domino into areas they really didn’t foresee. As to his ranting on a subject, have you ever listened to ESPN radio? Good grief!

Landry will land on his feet somewhere. Yes, he rankled me at times especially if he strayed into politics but he is passionate, quick witted, sometimes wry and all the debates I ever heard him get into about Toronto teams were grounded in his desire to see them perform at a higer level for thier fans.

Chris R.
Chris R.
August 12, 2010 8:15 am

C’mon FAN…Duelling Vics and the cocktail party will be sorely missed. At least Smitch is happy.

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