Cybulski & Co. Review for Monday, November 5 2012

By Alex

 

Thanks to Ami for allowing use of her review format and to TSM for the opportunity. These will hopefully continue as long as TSN 1050 keeps up their hour-long podcasts of the show.

 

4:00 Hour – James Cybulski, Bob Mackowycz hosting

Monday Co-Host:  Bruce Arthur of the National Post

First Hour Guest: Dave Feschuk of the Toronto Star

Segment One: Weather and Argos

  • Show begins with talk about weather and raccoons in Toronto.
  • Talk about Argos playoff chances and will the team be embraced by fans

Segment Two: Raptors

  • Discussion about Raptors’ first win
  • Pros and Cons of DeMar DeRozan contract

Segment Three: Terry Bradshaw’s “bucket of chicken” comment

  • Did Bradshaw make racial statement or just clueless one?
  • Arthur brings up Bradshaw’s history of head injuries
  • Conversation swings back to Tyler Bozak Hallowe’en costume
  • Mackowycz asks if there is a double standard for “likable” celebrities

Segment Four: Sean Payton contract status

  • Will Sean Payton become a free agent if his contract is voided?
  • Discussion of possible destinations (Dallas, Philly, …)
  • “Redskins Rule” vis-a-vis team’s win/lose before US elections

5:00 Hour — Cybulski, Mackowycz, Arthur

Segment One: Bob McKenzie – TSN HockeyAnalyst

  • McKenzie is in Quebec for QMJHL vs Russians All-Star game
  • Discussion of series vs Russians
  • Update on NHL negotiations between Bill Daly and Steve Fehr
  • Discussion of importance sports as live programming to TV networks

Segment Two: Baseball Free Agency

  • Discussion of Josh Hamilton and where he might sign
  • Would Hamilton’s injury history and substance abuse problems limit offers?

Segment Three: Herman Edwards, ESPN Football Analyst

  • Play tape of Indianapolis coach Chuck Pagano’s locker room speech
  • Weekend NFL Talk
  • Herm would still take Andrew Luck over Robert Griffin III with first pick
  •  Discussion of Bradshaw and Payton stories

Segment Four: Fab Five

  1. Easier or Harder to fill NHL void than in 2004-2005?
  2. Is Toronto ready to jump on Argonauts bandwagon if they win in playoffs?
  3. Should Bradshaw have given an on-air apology?
  4. In hindsight, would you have drafted Eli Manning or Ben Roethlisberger in 2004?
  5. Does Wayne Gretzky rank in pantheon of athletes with Michael Jordan and Muhammad Ali?

6:00 Hour — Cybulski, Mackowycz, Arthur

Segment One: Eric Tillman Firing

  • Discussion of Edmonton Eskimos firing Eric Tillman
  • Was Tillman angling for other jobs?
  • Discussion of Don Matthews illness

Segment Two: Dave Naylor, TSN Analyst

  • More CFL Talk, including Tillman firing
  • Brief mention of CHLPA story

Segment Three: Blue Jays Free Agency

  • Targets for Blue Jays in Free Agency
  • Discussion of short-lived Mike Aviles era
  • What’s relationship now between Blue Jays and fan base?

Segment Four: Wrap-Up Talk

  • Replay and discussion of Chuck Pagano speak

Thoughts:

I like the recent addition to Cybulski’s show on Monday’s of an extra guest in the Monday 4:00 hour, to give the show a mini-Roundtable format. I think today may have been the first time Feschuk has done it. It seems like Simmons and Naylor have also done it recently. I don’t know this for a fact, but it might be related to those writers being in the building for taping Off The Record. (I can’t see the show in the states, so I am only going by what is listed in the TSM Daily Line-ups.)

I hadn’t taken note before when I listened, but there does seem to be a good amount of topic repetition on the show. The Terry Bradshaw comments from Sunday came up in three segments and the Chuck Pagano came up twice. A certain amount of duplication can be expected on sports talk radio, where the average listener only hears a small segment of the show, so repeating points makes sense. But it can be a detriment to the small (vocal?) minority who listen to shows in their entirety.

 

Note: Can’t always promise quick turnaround on recaps. Between work, sleep and when podcast show up on itunes, could be delay. I was off work today, so got to listen in real time.

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Ryan
Ryan
November 5, 2012 7:52 pm

Good job Alex, keep them coming.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
November 5, 2012 7:53 pm

Yay! 😀 Excellent review!

Daver
Daver
November 5, 2012 8:33 pm

Looks like we found the one person who listens to TSN Radio!

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 5, 2012 9:06 pm

what is this? i don’t even …
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nice job Alex. I’m someone who finds Cybulski to be unlistenable but wants TSN 1050 to succeed, so i basically only check the podcasts when Arthur is on or when there is an interesting guest. This will give me a chance to hear someone else’s thoughts on the segments i skip. So, thanks for that.

If you want evidence on how Cybulski doesn’t know how to conduct an interview then hunt down either the Bettman interview or the Daly interview. The guy needs to learn how to ask a question rather than making lame jokes or responding by saying “REALLY????”
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2cents> I’ll say it once more: he’s the poison pill on his own show. if TSN were paying attention then they would simply drop him and let the show go on as a viable alternative to PTS. Right now C-balls’ frat boy shtick is a turn off /2cents>
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These will hopefully continue as long as TSM 1050 keeps up their hour-long podcasts of the show.

nice try Jonah!

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 5, 2012 9:09 pm
Reply to  Daver

hard to argue with this comment, but hopefully enough people tune in such that Toronto listeners have options. We deserve that.

Alex
Alex
November 5, 2012 10:40 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

I usually only listen to the monday show too, so hearing the rest of the week will be different. One (understandable) thing right now about 590 is all the basketball talk, which is an instant tune out for me. Also not surprising the amount of argos talk on 1050, esp compared to 590.

Daniel
Daniel
November 6, 2012 1:02 am

I’m not much of a Cybulski & Co fan, but I appreciate the post!

Daniel
Daniel
November 6, 2012 1:05 am
Reply to  mike in boston

haha. Yeah, you guys are both right.

Yeah, good to have alternatives, Mike. I definitely think the Fan drastically picked up its game once TSN announced they were launching a radio station.

As for TSN R itself? I think we were all expecting more. I can’t say I really listen much at all. But maybe they’ll find their own thing as time goes on.

Daniel
Daniel
November 6, 2012 1:10 am
Reply to  mike in boston

Yeah. I find Cybulski to be awful, to be frank.

I remember before 1050 launched there were rumors that Landsberg was going to host the drive home show. I’m not the biggest Landsberg fan, but I bet if he did a show it would be giving McCown much more of a run than Cybulski is. Same with Jay Onrait and Dan O’Toole. I’d tune in if those two had a shift.

Seriously… with all the personalities TSN has (Landsberg, Jay+Dan, Hodge, Duthie) they end up putting James Cybulski and Bryan Hayes as centrepieces on their radio station? No offense to those guys, they’re good broadcasters … but they’re completely overshadowed by Tim & Sid and McCown. In my opinion at least.

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Itchy Butt
Itchy Butt
November 6, 2012 5:25 am

I’ll give you credit for sitting thru a whole show of that dross!

Derrick
Derrick
November 6, 2012 11:05 am

I’m listening to the first hour and there is more CFL/Argo’s talk in the first 20 minutes on this show then there as been this whole season on PTS. One of the points asked was “If the Argo’s reach the Grey Cup, will the city get behind them?”, which raises the question, “If the Argo’s make the Grey Cup, will anyone on PTS acknowledge it?”.

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 6, 2012 11:12 am
Reply to  Derrick

i seem to recall a time when Bob was all in to the CFL. I think he talked about having some advisory position on the Grey Cup committee or something. i also think he had the commissioner of the CFL on to talk a lot about rule changes, and refereeing and instant replay, and letting fans suggest new rules etc.

i could be making this all up, but it’s my impression that Bob has not always ignored the CFL. is it possible that this is because TSN has the broadcast rights? maybe, but given how insignificant the Argos are in toronto, it seems pretty petty.

Derrick
Derrick
November 6, 2012 11:49 am
Reply to  mike in boston

Bob was all over the Grey Cup the last time it was in Toronto. Last season he had Jim Barker and/or Adam Rita on the show at least once a week. This season? I think I’ve heard Eric Tillman on once or twice, and that’s it for the CFL coverage. And there’s not much coverage on the other shows either. I think the fact that 1050/TSN has both the radio and T.V. rights has a lot to do with the lack of coverage of the CFL on PTS and Fan590 also.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2012 11:50 am

Mike,

You’re not making it up – McCown used to have those two shysters (Cynaman & Sokolowski) on weekly and in between discussed the Argos almost on a daily basis. His two buddies disappeared when Braley bought the team from them and it was later revealed they had not put up any of their own money despite being called “owners”. That other FOB slime ball Keith Pelley was running the Argos so Bob did whatever it took to promote them.

Now, rarely does he even mention the CFL and when he talk about the Argos, its always in a negative way. I wonder whatever happened to those two shysters…..

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 6, 2012 11:55 am
Reply to  Roger

this post literally made me laugh out loud. “FOB slime ball” … hilarious.

Another Steve
Another Steve
November 6, 2012 12:21 pm

I don’t listen to 1050 a lot, but one thing that I do like is that the station’s hockey guys often seem willing to talk about other sports, and do so intelligently. For example, I remember driving home a week or so ago and hearing Ray Ferraro talking about the baseball playoffs rather than spending time talking about the tedious hockey lock-out.

I’m only a passive hockey fan, so I find it incredibly boring to hear hockey-people, who work for a sports-radio station, basically admit that they know nothing other than hockey. This is the reason that I can’t stand listening to HC at Noon on 590 anymore. It has its moments when McLean and Kypreos turn it into a version of Crossfire – one taking the side of the owners and the other supporting the players – but it is otherwise horribly tedious.

Derrick
Derrick
November 6, 2012 12:24 pm
Reply to  Roger

This is a post about Cybulski and Co and we end up talking about Bob and PTS. HA!

Alex
Alex
November 6, 2012 12:47 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

Wasn’t it last year when Belli was a weekly guest and when he went to Europe to play in that international football tournament, he disappeared from the show after that?

Daniel
Daniel
November 6, 2012 1:50 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

I guess there could be something to the fact that The Fan doesn’t talk much CFL because TSN had the rights.

But… I mean, they sure talked a lot of Leafs when 640 had them. When the Jays were on 1050, they still covered them.

I dunno. There may be something to it, but I really think the Argos have fallen off the map in terms of interest. They may be 5th in the city now. I think that may have more to do with it.

Daniel
Daniel
November 6, 2012 1:52 pm
Reply to  Daniel

I guess what I’m saying is, it may be nearly as likely that TSN feels they have to push the Argos as The Fan may feel they should ignore them.

I don’t know that CFL talk in Toronto is a real ratings grabber in 2012.

Mike S
Mike S
November 7, 2012 2:20 am
Reply to  Alex

Now that Alex has offered to review Cybulski I look forward to his review of the weekly “Rob Ford CFL Picks” segment

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
November 7, 2012 4:21 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

I think Bob’s interest in the CFL waned when his friends stopped being owners of the Argos. He was really into it when he was involved in it and his friends were owning a team and probably let him into events and got him involved in things.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
November 7, 2012 4:22 pm
Reply to  Daniel

That’s been my assumption for this year. I figured when TSN took the Argo rights to TSN Radio, that the FAN basically saw no reason to talk about the CFL given that their research probably says v few listeners care that much about the CFL that they’d tune out without CFL talk.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
November 7, 2012 7:03 pm
Reply to  Daniel

When Onrait and O’Toole guest hosted for Cybulski and company, I tuned in and heard them describe in detail what one of them had seen in a toilet bowl, and promptly turned back to PTS. Is this just a really strange blip for them, or are they usually that immature?

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