Prime Time Sports Review – Friday 16 November 2012

Prime Time Sports – Friday, 16 November 2012

by Alex

4:00 Hour – phone calls

* Bob says Reyes needing to do physical is hold up to trade approval
* Bob thinks Cabrera could be bigger addition than anyone in trade
* Bob again touts Guillen as his manager choice

Notes: biggest news this hour for me is the board op using The Cure as bumper music.

5:00 Hour – Roundtable w John Shannon, Dave Perkins, Tim Micallef

Segment 1 – Blue Jays moves

* update on Shannon’s parking ticket
* Discussion of Trade and Cabrera signing
* Perkins gives brief history of Cabrera’s career
* Perkins says Jays probably not done
* “they have more money than Yoko Ono” – Perkins on Rogers
* Bob says Jays already had open wallet before The trade
* Perkins says success of Orioles may have spurned Jays to spend
* Bob wants to package Rasmus/Arencebia for pitcher/2B
* Buehrle and dog issue
* Future of returning young SPs
* Marco Scutaro – yea or nay
* bodog drops Jays odds to 11-1
* Bob asks if we could see 50,000 at Skydome next year

Notes: Good thing Perkins is there today to bring actual baseball facts.

Segment 2 – Raptors talk

* discussion of Andre Bargnani
* discussion of Landry Fields

Notes: passive listening while eating. Nothing to add

Segment 3 – Marlins fire sale

* Do Marlins fans have right to complain?
* Perkins says they deserve it for trusting Loria
* Bob again says Marlins have 2 more titles than Jays in last 15 years

Notes: bob still thinks Loria owned the Marlins when they won both World Series. Can someone remind him about Wayne Huizenga?

6:00 hour -Roundtable continues

segment 1 – Jays moves

* Clip of Anthopolous from September discussing signing Cabrera
* discussion of giving second chances
* Perkins explains details of Cabrera- Giants relationship
* How do deals change who should be manager?
* Shannon throws out Torre, Cox, LaRussa
* Perkins said to AA that team should have Latin manager. AA disagreed.
* More Guillen talk

Notes: bob dismisses Guillen’s comments about Castro, but never seems to bring up his use of homophobic slurs, for which he crucified Escobar.

Segment 2 – CFL playoffs

* Drew Tate concussion story
* CFL policy vs NFL policy
* Shannon brings up CHL concussion policy
* preview of CFL semi-finals
* Bob says Bieber is getting $0 to play at halftime
* Consensus is BC vs Montreal final
* Bob wants Braley Bowl for humor sake

Notes: bob’s Anti CFL agenda continues

segment 3 – Prime Time Bullets

* lockout talks take 2 weeks off
* Colts vs Patriots
* AL MVP talk.
* Perkins would have voted for Trout.

Notes: good roundtable. Barely any lockout talk, Shannon mostly behaved.


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Brian Gerstein
November 16, 2012 7:51 pm

Alex, speediest recap ever from end of show. Bob’s memory has gotten to the point now that I just go with the flow, and accept Bob for what he is – a showman who when he is on his game and motivated both in the subject matter and the guests can be second to none. i wish we saw “Good Bob” more often, but we take what we can get.

I agree with Perkins, Trout would have been my choice as well, but the voters took the easy way out and just voted for the triple crown winner.

I only caught a few minutes of the show, missed the Raptors segment, but between Bob and Mr. McGoo I feel sorry for anybody subjected to their supposed knowledge of the team.

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 16, 2012 8:46 pm

haven’t listened to the show yet , but it seems the “backstage” people are gigantic pussies. they read this blog, they read your tweets, yet they seem unwilling to suggest basic factual corrections to the Bobcat. McCown does;t strike me as a guy who would fire people for pointing out mistakes, but maybe i’m wrong about that.

In any case, the lack of basic fact-checking on PTS is out of control. We’re veering into Abe Simpson “old man yells at cloud” territory.

November 16, 2012 10:39 pm
Reply to  Brian Gerstein

Brian, have you ever watched a baseball game? unless you have a baseball package of some sort, which I doubt! because it is the only way you could watch both Trout and Cabrera and form an informed opinion. Cabrera did something that hasn’t been done for almost 50 years! (probably long before you were a little swimmer in your Daddy’s, Fruit of the Looms”). Mike Trout is a terrific baseball player, so far, and probably will win a MLP some day! He didn’t get called up until
almost May, and tanked the last six weeks of the season. Mean while, Cabrera
amped it up and got his team to the post season. Think before you say
something stupid, and don’t listen to Perkins! Have a nice Weekend!

Darren Johnston
November 16, 2012 11:08 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

Agree with this 150%

Mike V
Mike V
November 16, 2012 11:27 pm
Reply to  bobthetrapper

“because it is the only way you could watch both Trout and Cabrera and form an informed opinion.”
Of course, you should only watch the players and listen to your gut. Don’t make it any more complicated then that by looking at those funny numbers.

“Cabrera did something that hasn’t been done for almost 50 years!”
Why should this end the discussion? We know now that the three statistics that make up the “Triple Crown” are not a good indication of a players worth.

“(probably long before you were a little swimmer in your Daddy’s, Fruit of the Looms).”
Ad hominen attack that accompanies all great arguments.

“He didn’t get called up until almost May, and tanked the last six weeks of the season.”
And yet he still had a more productive year of the two.

“Mean while, Cabrera amped it up and got his team to the post season.”
He amped them to a worse record than the Angels and played in a much weaker division.

The Cabrera MVP voters are something else. They don’t just admit their ignorance, they actually revel in it. Sort of like the Republicans in the last election.

November 17, 2012 12:07 am

It seemed to me that Shannon was trying to cover up for the fact that he forgot that Sergio Santos would be coming back to be the closer.

Itchy Butt
Itchy Butt
November 17, 2012 8:33 am
Reply to  bobthetrapper

I’ll take Brian’s intelligent posts any time over your beer guzzling Canadiana verbosity.

November 17, 2012 10:20 am
Reply to  Brian Gerstein

Totally agree with accepting Bob for who he is. I would like to see him motivated more often, but I’ve tried to give up hoping that its going to happen.

Brian Gerstein
November 17, 2012 10:58 am
Reply to  mike in boston

This is pure conjecture on my part and just a theory, but one that logically makes sense. Firstly, there is no way that the staff is not as, if not more frustrated than we are, as it is their reputations as well that are taking hits on both Bob’s memory errors and his so called facts he states that are just plain wrong.

The likely have tried to make the corrections to Bob in a subtle way to see if he would take the bait, and he has either ignored the input so they realized it is futile, or he has politely but firmly let them know it is his show, and that stuff is not important as to why people listen and he continues to dominate the ratings.

To Bob it is a show and entertainment, that is it. He really couldn’t care less what comes out of his mouth as long as the ratings stay high and he is employed to be able to live and enjoy the lifestyle that he does.

The only hope we have on any change is if the ratings go the other way, and it can be linked to the above, which is highly unlikely given the competition at 1050 to date.

I am less concerned with this than the FOB’s, which are my biggest deterrent to listening. No matter what, you can’t change who Bob is at this stage of his life.

About a year ago Ami and I had a discussion about Bob’s failing memory, and the awkward pauses that incur while he tries to get the hard drive in his brain to bring out the name he is looking for, and usually without any success. He then just leaves it and moves on, or one of the FOB’s, if they know it pipe in. I am sure the Producer’s if they know offer it to Bob. We were both concerned with dementia issues, and in my late 40’s I forget where I left my cell phone in my house or the car keys, so I can relate to that, and I have problems recollecting the odd name here and there. With Bob though, being on air as long as he is, you notice so many of these incidents that you can’t help but be concerned about it.

It would be great TSM, if you can do some digging on your end, and look into what exactly is going on behind the scenes related to this. I am sure you have enough contacts to get to the bottom of this. Being a sensitive topic, you may not want to pursue it, but if so, we, as listeners, once and for all, would like to know what exactly is going on.

November 18, 2012 2:19 am

Did anybody catch Bob doing Dr. Seuss (which we know he reads to his kids and likes)? On Melky Cabrera: “Who is he in the room? Good guy, bad guy, this guy, that guy?”

November 18, 2012 6:31 pm
Reply to  Brian Gerstein

Hey Brian, this is just pure conjecture on my part and just a theory, but you might be well served by taking your head out of your ass. Bob is lazy, full of himself to the point where facts don’t matter and doesn’t give a rat’s ass what you or anyone else here thinks. And he won’t until TSN steps up with a show that might be, you know, listenable. I keep reading here all the critiques of McCown and most are legitimate. But people keep listening. So who are the fools? The fact that you actually give some thought to memory lapses is stunning. Forgetting names means one of three things: he forgot a name, he didn’t know a name because he didn’t think things out beforehand, or he doesn’t give a shit. I’ll go with the last two. Dementia? WTF.

November 19, 2012 12:56 am

I don’t think it’s dementia. But I do think he’s getting old. I think his increasing memory problems are more likely from age rather than him just not caring to remember. A lot of his forgetfulness are things you’d either recall or not, like the name of a player, it’s not the same as something you just don’t care to learn. We’ve seen the same from some of the older guests (Elliott, Bert Sugar, Jim Kelley) in the past too, and I doubt we’d accuse them of just not caring about their sport.

I don’t think Bob is perfect, and I definitely understand the criticism of him that he doesn’t seem to watch sports anymore, that he only wants to talk about sports he cares about, that he says things as fact that he’s not sure as being true (like Aviles being a high strike out guy), and other things that people have an issue with him about. But, I think that it’s not fair to attribute a slowing memory on him just not caring just because you need to make him out to be a terrible and lazy host. Maybe other things are indications of that, but his memory issues are probably because he legitimately can’t recall it, not because he doesn’t care to.

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