Prime Time Sports – Friday 23 November 2012

By Alex

4:00 Hour

Segment 1 – Michael McCann, Sports Illustrated

* Who is McCann rooting for in the Grey Cup?
* Decertification Primer
* Precedents in other leagues
* McCann says he would file pre-emptive lawsuit if he was the NHLPA
* Bob say this could take years in court.

notes: McCann does good job in trying to speak to the layman on this issue.

Segment 2 – Doug Smith, Toronto Star

* Smith is hitting the Grey Cup parties
* Smith happy not to be covering Raptors / Pistons tonight
* Bob expected a bigger splash. A lot like 2007.
* Smith wants to ride Marty the Horse
* nursing convention also taking place at royal york hotel
* Bob has not invited to any parties
* Bob will watch game on his infamous big ass TV

Notes: Bob says he was not invited to any parties, so he will not compare them to 2007, when he was on the committee

Segment 3 – Roundtable preview

* will Argos really make $12m on Grey Cup?
* New stadium for Argos?

Notes: Bob takes another shot at Argos attendance

5:00 Hour – Friday Roundtable – Stephen Brunt, John Shannon, Elliotte Friedman

Segment 1 – Blue Jay Offseason

* Bob recaps horrible 2012 year for Jays
* Freidman brings up Jays didn’t give up best prospects
* Recap of Gibbons and AA interviews
* Shannon think its still a big risk
* discussion of Hispanic manager/ coaches
* Friedman discusses Adam Lind interview from Blair show
* Who will be closer in 2013?
* No Fan 590 Xmas party this year

Notes:  hopefully, the lastJays segment discussing the trade and Gibbons. It seems like a beat to death subject at this point.

Segment 2 –  Raptors talk

* Vanier Cup discussion
* Friedman says Cox will be insufferable if McMaster and Notre Dame win
* Brunt says “less sufferable”
* Raptors have not seized opportunity in hockey vacuum
* non-call in Charlotte
* PTS BINGO: Bob makes an Alphonseand Gastone reference

Notes: hard to imagine a more insufferable Damian Cox

Segment 3 – World Baseball Classic 2013

* No games at Skydome and training camp in Phoenix
*  Jays want them to train in Dunedin
* Shannon would have all teams in Phoenix
* Friedman brings up Beeston incident from past WB
* Bob talks about Us v Canada in past WBC
* Bob compares it to Winter Classic
* Friedman suggests a Bob Drinking game

Notes: does Elliotte not know about PTS Bingo?

6:00 Hour – Friday Roundtable – Stephen Brunt, John Shannon, Elliotte Friedman

Segment 1 – CFL / Grey Cup

* CFL Commish State of League Address
* 6/8 teams making money or breaking even
* Hamilton and Toronto are the other two
* Brunt says Argos are biggest CFL problem
* Bob tells his Argos/jays story from April 1977
* jays and leafs have ups and downs, but no hardly any ups for Argos
* Bob talks about McNall/Gretzky era of Argos
* Shannon discuss demographics of Jays and Argos
* Brunt says its cyclical everywhere but Toronto
* Brunt wonders what happens if they put grass in Skydome
* Bob brings up stadium at York University
* Friedman asks about Braley’s future as owner
* Friedman thinks a league-owned Argos is a possibility
* Bob asks if they could survive without a team in Toronto?
* Friedman asks if Rogers / MLSE would buy team?

Notes:  Funny how Bob says he doesn’t want to rain on Grey Cup parade, but this segment did a good job of it.

Segment 2 – Decertification / Lockout Talk

* Cancellation of Dec games and All-Star Game
* Columbus is not getting next ASG or one for 5 years
* Shannon says 2017 game will be in Toronto
* A month away for latest season can probably start
* Shannon thinks they have a 60 game season schedule for December 15 ready
* Friedman points to Dec 5 board of governors meeting for news
* Friedman talks about his doing decertification homework
* Bob says jurisdiction is important if there’s a lawsuit
* is player discontentment just white noise?
* Brunt will take it seriously if agents start to turn

Notes: thoughtful discussion without Shannon monopolizing conversation

Segment 3 – Prime Time Bullets

* Health update on Hector “Macho” Camacho
* Paul Henderson elected to IIHF hall of fame
* MLB Network coming to Canada?
* Bob says Red Zone Chanel s for gamblers or idiots

Notes: surprised this was first time Camacho has been discussed, especially with Brunt as co-host.

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November 23, 2012 9:06 pm

great review Alex. I did not hear any of it this afternoon, but sounds like some interesting stuff.
I, too, was surprised that Camacho had not come up earlier this week.

Mike S
Mike S
November 23, 2012 11:39 pm

Shannon has been on 8 of the last 9 PTS Friday roundtables………….I think he is trying to break the record he set this time last year

November 24, 2012 1:06 am
Reply to  Mike S

Whether he’s serious or not, Shannon has said in the past that it’s in his contract to do the Friday roundtables.

(Another) Andrew
(Another) Andrew
November 24, 2012 11:20 am
Reply to  kyle

Did they mention why Camacho was on life support? (He was a shooting victim). I didn’t hear the start but they were talking as if everybody already knew why he was on life support (yet this is the first time they’ve mentioned it) or as if he just became ill out of nowhere. He’s the second boxer to be murdered in recent months – in September Corrie Sanders was shot dead in South Africa. I don’t recall Sanders being discussed.

November 24, 2012 1:04 pm

Very enjoyable roundtable I thought.

November 24, 2012 6:47 pm

Always great when Shannon is on the air. No one else on Sportsnet or TSN can speak as fluently and authoritatively about the intersection of sports and business and broadcasting.

On Cybulski and Co., Michael Landsberg brought his usual energy and self assurance, as his sat in for James. For us too young to remember the show had 2 nice anecdotes about how passionate the Argonaut fan base was in the past. First, there was the story of a young Michael Landsberg running on the field at Exhibition Stadium after a loss and yelling at Argo coach Russ Jackson “You Suck!”. Then Steve Simmons recalled watching the Argos in the 1971 Grey Cup, and he and his family crying after the famous fumble and loss. It was a good show.

Itchy Butt
Itchy Butt
November 24, 2012 7:06 pm
Reply to  Kamlesh

You gotta be trolling about Shannon.

Mike S
Mike S
November 25, 2012 1:05 am
Reply to  Daniel

I agree with Daniel…………the Friday roundtable was enjoyable…………McCown, Brunt, and Friedman are three of my favourites……………..and Shannon behaved so he was tolerable

November 25, 2012 2:14 am

If you’re going to say the Jays should have signed a “big name” manager, you should at least come armed with the name of some big names who were available that you know the Jays could have had but passed up on. Otherwise, you’re criticizing them for not doing something that might very well have been impossible.

November 25, 2012 2:19 am
Reply to  Alex

Yup. Shannon says he’s told to show up every Friday by the producers.

November 25, 2012 2:20 am
Reply to  Mike S

It’s depressing because it means that only one of the roundtable spots are free any given Friday (barring the co-host or Shannon being unavailable), and really ruins the variety of opinions and personalities that the old roundtables used to bring.

November 25, 2012 2:21 am
Reply to  Kamlesh

Putting aside whether that’s true, then he should only show up as an interview guest on PTS when they need to talk about the business of sports broadcasting.

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 25, 2012 9:00 am

been traveling and listened to a ton of podcasts this week.

– both the FAN and TSN RADIO did a fantastic job with their Jays coverage. My only complaint: no one asked AA “if Gibbons is such a great manager then was he unable to find a managing job (or even be in the running for one) after he was fired by the Jays?”

– highly recommend finding the John McDonald interview with Hayes. Really great insider insight on Gibbons and AA.

– Tim is quickly (in my book) becoming the only star on Tim&Sid. I’m not sure what Sid adds to the show right now.

– Cybulski continues to be horrible. Every time Simmons said something with which Cballs disagreed, he would shout “But WHY???????” before Simmons had a chance to lay out the argument. It’s almost like he has no radio training at all.

mike in boston
mike in boston
November 25, 2012 9:03 am

p.s. – thanks for the reviews Alex. These are great.

p.p.s. – during a call-in segment someone asked if the Jays could get Doc back. Bob pointed out that he didn’t leave on bad terms, but rather left to pursue a World Series. Notably, he didn’t make mention of any ring that Doc won since leaving the Jays. Way to go @backstagePTS!

November 25, 2012 2:06 pm

The November 16 Sports Beats pod-cast on TSN1050 was excellent. Just listened to it for a second time. Darrin Pfeiffer talks to Kevin Shea who co-authored Derek Sanderson’s book “Crossing the Line”. Sanderson played way back with Bobby Orr’s Bruins. He went from being the highest paid athlete in the world to rock bottom. Had days of 4 bottles of wine before breakfast, harder stuff in the afternoon plus a blizzard of cocaine. The nadir was when he was sleeping on park benches, stealing from winos and eating out of dumpters. Compelling stuff.
Also very interesting was Kevin Shea’s stories about working in the Canadian music biz and trying to get radio stations to play a new band named Nirvana. Nice music from Pfeiffer as always.

Steph D
Steph D
November 26, 2012 10:55 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Agreed. And try to have them realistic. Trotting out Joe Torre and Bobby Cox out of retirement isn’t gonna happen, so maybe bring up RELEVANT names.

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