Prime Time Sports Review for Monday, December 10, 2012

By Ami Angelwings

4pm hour – Bob McCown hosting

First segment: Interview with Sid Seixeiro and Tim Micallef, hosts of Tim & Sid, FAN590

  • Bob, Sid and Tim discuss Christine Sinclair being chosen as the Lou Marsh winner as Canada’s Athlete of the Year
  • Bob thinks that Sinclair shouldn’t have won, Sid refuses to answer Bob about who should have won

Second segment: Interview with Jon Paul Morosi, FOX Sports Baseball reporter

  • Morosi and Bob discuss the Jays and if they need to get some pitching help just in case some of their starters get hurt, both agree that Villanueva is somebody the Jays should look at re-signing
  • Bob and Morosi talks about the pitchers available on the market
  • Bob asks if Tampa Bay trading James Shields was an economic move, Morosi says it was
  • Morosi thinks the Royals made a desperate, but good, trade, and that they’re now a more challenging team
  • Morosi talks about Greinke signing with the Dodgers and the Rangers are the team under the gun because they’ve lost several players
  • Morosi talks about Ryu Hyun-Jin

5pm hour – Bob McCown hosting, Damien Cox co-hosting

First segment: Talk segment

  • Bob and Cox talk about the Lou Marsh voting, Cox accidentally convinces Bob that Christine Sinclair might have been worthy of the award
  • Bob lists his top 3 as being Ryder Hesjedal, Milos Raonic and Steven Stamkos, 3, 2, 1

Second segment: Interview with Bryan Colangelo

  • Colangelo talks about the struggles of the team, says that he is not considering firing Dwayne Casey as the coach
  • Bob asks Colangelo to rate Bargnani’s play, Colangelo says he hasn’t played up to expectations
  • Colangelo says that if there’s a trade that could improve the team for the future, he would do that, but that the plan is long term

Third segment: Interview with Mark Spector, Sportsnet hockey reporter

  • Spector talks about the NHL/NHLPA labor negotiations

6pm hour – Bob McCown hosting, Damien Cox co-hosting

First segment: Interview with Don Banks, Sports Illustrated NFL reporter

  • Banks talks about the Texans vs Patriots game, and that it will be a real measure of the Texans
  • Cox asks if Adrian Peterson is injecting himself into the MVP discussion, Banks says he definitely has, but there’s such a strong field
  • Bob says he doesn’t remember a year with so many MVP candidates
  • Cox asks that with QBs doing a lot of running in the NFL lately, will that allow small QBs like Johnny Manziel to succeed in the NFL?  Banks says he doesn’t know, but he might have a better chance than in the past
  • Cox asks if the NFL is going to do anything new about players and drugs and guns, Banks says that the two incidents lately will bring renewed focus to the NFL encouraging players to turn in their guns, but isn’t sure if the league can stop their players from making bad decisions

Second segment: Interview with Scott Russell, CBC Sports

  • Russell talks about the Lou Marsh award voting and that he championed Christine Nesbitt for the trophy
  • Russell, Cox and Bob discuss the conflict between amateur and professional athletes in the award voting
  • Bob suggests having a different award for both, while Russell ponders having an award for team and individual athletes
  • Cox ultimately thinks that he likes having an award for everybody because it means that nobody feels as if they’re getting the token award, and that it means something for an amateur to beat pros for the award

Third segment: Interview with Brian Rice, Geneva College basketball player

  • Rice talks about how he passed up the opportunity to play Division II basketball when he was young to join the navy, and now he’s going to be playing college ball at 43
  • Cox asks Rice what he’s going to school for and Rice says he’s going for ministry

Thoughts:

I had to pick a Cox week to come back to reviewing. xD

Actually, outside of the opening talk segment where Cox was doing some of his mocking, insulting schtick, I actually liked him on this show.  I thought he had some really good thoughts and questions in the Banks and Russell interviews, specifically asking Banks if the NFL quarterback running game has changed enough for small quarterbacks like Johnny Manziel to be able to succeed.

Having said that, I still wish Brunt was the co-host for this show because I’ve always liked hearing him and Bob talk about the Lou Marsh on the day it’s voted on.  It’s too bad Bob didn’t go today because as he said, he’s sometimes swayed by arguments, and I think he would have a broader view of the candidates if he had been there to listen to people make their cases.

I thought Bob was fairly light on Colangelo given how angry he’s been with the Raptors.  I mean I didn’t expect him to scream and yell, but he seemed to let Colangelo lead the interview and ultimately didn’t get that much out of him.  (They’re not thinking of firing the coach. Bargnani can play better. If there’s a trade that improves the team, Colangelo will make it.)

I thought the Morosi interview was really informative, and they packed a lot of discussion into that one segment.

The Tim and Sid didn’t add much to the show I thought, and I really DO wish that Sid would give a solid opinion on things instead of either trying to avoid taking a stand, or trying to make over the top declarations/jokes that make it confusing what he actually believes.  Mostly, whenever they’re on with Bob, Bob dominates the conversation, and he kind of did again today with his thoughts on the Lou Marsh.

The Rice story is really cool, but the interview itself wasn’t spectacular.  It would have been more interesting if he had been asked some questions about what’s different about playing basketball at this age, what he has to do to prepare, if he’s changed his game to compensate, and if he feels his experience compensates for his diminishing skills, etc…

Also there was something about a hockey lockout.

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Alex
Alex
December 11, 2012 8:34 am

I’d recommend people check.out the lou marsh discussion from cybulskis show. Cybulski almost seemed to be trolling Arthur and Festchuk about sinclair winning.

Alex
Alex
December 11, 2012 8:39 am

Funny thing yesterday. Sid tweeted about being annoyed there was more twitter traffic about the ikea monkey than sinclair, yet i heard loads more monkey talk on their show than about sinclair.

Also, can sid please stop that weird muppet sounding voice?

mike in boston
mike in boston
December 11, 2012 8:44 am

I thought Bob was surprisingly light on Colangelo given how angry he’s been with the Raptors.
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hi Ami, welcome to the site! Really glad that you’ve decided to start listening to PTS!

Brian Gerstein
December 11, 2012 9:59 am

Ami, Colangelo made a series of ridiculous statements that he was mocked for prior to Bob interviewing him, both on TSN2 the previous night in the first quarter during the broadcast, as well as on the FAN 590 with Eric Smith. There was a huge blowback from the Raptor fanbase, so he was very careful this time not to say anything either controversial or even his usual full spin-mode, as that is what got him into hot water. As a result, Bob was not going to get anything out of him, as the damage had already been done to his reputation.

To illustrate some of the things he had previously said, they were that it was not a talent issue, which considering we are now a 4-18 team, is laughable. He also admitted we won too many games last year, costing us a much better draft pick. This comment shocked me, as he was being honest for the first time in ages, and he may still get fined by the NBA privately for that comment, but it was, honest. Having said that, it was obvious to me last year that he set us up to tank, but Casey played hard to win, and extracted too many wins out of the roster. As a result, we ended up with Terrence Ross, a #8 pick who was projected to go in the mid-teens, instead of a bunch of players with far higher ceilings. The bad news, honesty aside, is that he just threw Ross under the bus. It was not Ross’s fault that he was picked at #8.

Colangelo has made a ton of other excuses, from bad calls by refs, to scheduling, to injuries, basically saying that our record is not indicative of who we are, but the reality is your record is who you are, it does not lie.

I wrote an e-mail to a bunch of Raptor executives, and got a response from Anselmi, which was identical to what Colangelo has been spinning. Here it is, and it has gone to a bunch of other people who had sent in complaints to MLSE:

Brian,

Thanks for your email and for your feedback.

Sorry I haven’t responded sooner – I’ve been out of town. Obviously, this season has not started the way anyone planned. As it stands, team performance is unacceptable. Please know that we are focused on ensuring the situation is addressed and that play and results on the court improves as quickly as possible.

Thanks again for your support and your patience.

Sincerely,
Tom

From: Brian Gerstein
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:48 AM
To: Tom Anselmi
Subject: Fire Colangelo

Enough is enough! We are tired of the spinmaster deflecting blame and taking little responsibility for his pathetic tenure here as Raptors GM.

Thank you for the consideration.

Brian Gerstein
Loyal But Becoming Apathetic Raptors Fan
https://twitter.com/RaptorsDevotee

Itchy Butt
Itchy Butt
December 11, 2012 11:10 am
Reply to  Brian Gerstein

I’m not angry about the Raptors. If anything I am sad. I want to be able to cheer for them and relish in some wins. It’s such a great game. But I am getting apethetic, which is exactly what you DON’T want from a fan.
Isn’t that a famous saying? What’s the only thing worse than hate? Apathy.

Nan Young Lee
Nan Young Lee
December 11, 2012 1:13 pm

Keep Colangelo, give him an extension for 2 years and don’t trade Bargnani. Valancuinas was one of the great finds in recent years. Already getting 2 offensive rebounds and 8 ppg(with a 50% field goal %) in only 23 minutes per game. In Bargnani’s final year of his contract 2014/2015 Valancuinas will be in his third season and probably an all star, then you’ll be looking for another Bargnani and it might cost more that Bargnani’s $12 million. The fans have been waiting for years they’ll wait some more. Leaf fans can prop up the Raptor season tickets till then.

Nan Young Lee
Nan Young Lee
December 11, 2012 1:25 pm

Today on Tim and Sid they were going on about how anyone could have done the job Gary Bettman has done. Bettman is getting paid $8 million for nothing I guess. Ed Snider, Jeremy Jacobs, and Bill Wirtz must not know what their doing. Tim and Sid with their access to the NHL books and MBA degrees from Harvard should go a Board of Gov. meeting and explain to these diffident owners how to better run their business.

Darrell
Darrell
December 11, 2012 3:04 pm

I don’t think Toronto Raptor fans are thinking things through clearly. Andrea Bargnani has not been an all-star and neither has Jose Calderon. I feel like I am listening to Leaf fans when I say this, but if Bargnani and Calderon are “garbage” on the Raptor team, why oh why do you think anyone else will want your garbage and that Toronto will steal a deal for two guys who are struggling on the roster?
The team has lost 18 of 22 now – not won 18 of 22. I personally think every last person in that organization should NOT be untouchable and that Colangelo has clearly got to go! His act has worn off and this team needs HUGE shakeups and completely strip the team down and start again because where this team currently is not working.

Alex
Alex
December 11, 2012 3:12 pm
Reply to  Nan Young Lee

Even bettman haters should give him credit for his positive biz deals.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
December 11, 2012 4:55 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

>_> Sometimes he does go after people though. I guess Colangelo’s reached FOB status.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
December 11, 2012 5:01 pm
Reply to  Brian Gerstein

Generally if Colangelo doesn’t want to speak, you probably can’t get anything out of him anyway. This is all true. xD But then why even have him on? Why not have Casey on, or Doug Smith who may know something about whether Colangelo may fire Casey, and have something to say on it. And even if Colangelo was going into bunker mode, Bob could still have tried to get something out of him, or Damien, who didn’t talk the entire interview I think.

Darren Johnston
December 11, 2012 8:50 pm
Reply to  Darrell

What do u think about Bob’s push for FOB Butch Carter to return to the sidelines? Armstrong completely shut the idea down, almost as if he knows something else about when he was fired.

Naradha
Naradha
December 11, 2012 11:37 pm

Please hire Jerry Sloan. He Will fix all this if we are not short on talents.

mike in boston
mike in boston
December 12, 2012 8:35 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

what does that face mean?

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
December 13, 2012 12:25 am
Reply to  mike in boston

The “I don’t know if you’re teasing me or trying to be mean so I’m just going to explain why I said that and hope for the best” face? :3 <— that's the mischievous cat face

mike in boston
mike in boston
December 13, 2012 9:53 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

not trying to be mean, just making a joke … the “Bob was talking tough yesterday but rolled over when Brian was on” meme is pretty well established by now.

i’m not sure why Bob lets the MLSE GMs hump him on his own show, but it’s kind of sad to watch. You don’t have to scream and rant or call anyone names in order to hold them accountable for their actions. This is pro sports and your record defines you.

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