Prime Time Sports Review for Friday, January 18, 2013

By Ami Angelwings

4pm hour – Bob McCown hosting

First segment: Interview with Glenn Healy, CBC Hockey Night In Canada reporter

  • Healy talks about the start of the new NHL season, and the challenges that comes from suddenly starting a season, such as rust on the referees and players
  • Bob asks Healy what’s the one thing in the NHL he hates, Healy doesn’t answer immediately, so Bob says he hates the shootout
  • Healy says the thing he’d want to get rid of is the morning skates, Bob says that that’s just about Healy being lazy and has no impact on the game
  • Bob and Healy discuss what a good owner of the Canadiens, George Gillett was
  • Healy thinks the Rangers will be good this year because they got Nash and they have a great goaltender

Second segment: Interview with Mike Zeisberger, Toronto Sun sports reporter

  • Bob and Zeisberger discuss the Bears hiring Marc Trestman, Bob says to the US fans, it’s like he came from Mongolia
  • Zeisberger wants to say the 49ers will win on Saturday, but thinks that the media may be trying too hard to find the warts in Atlanta just because they have a history of failing in the playoffs
  • Bob predicts Atlanta will win because everybody is playing up the 49ers so much, they’re overlooking the merits of the Falcons
  • Bob thinks the Ravens got lucky for 2 games and the Patriots will beat them, Zeisberger says that the Ravens may win because they’re not afraid of the Patriots and Tom Brady
  • Ultimately, Zeisberger says that the Patriots and 49ers will win, but he’d take the underdogs in terms of the spread

5pm hour – Roundtable discussion with Bob McCown, Stephen Brunt, John Shannon and Sid Seixeiro

First segment: Various topics

  • Brief discussion about whether or not Brian Burke would show up to any Leafs games this season, nobody thinks he will
  • Discussion about the Montreal Canadiens and the Toronto Maple Leafs, and their situations

Second segment: Discussion about Lance Armstrong’s interview with Oprah

  • Bob thinks Armstrong came off as a cold fish, Sid says no emotion came through the screen
  • Bob doesn’t believe Armstrong stopped cheating for his last two races
  • Brunt points out how he carefully claimed the races that were still within the statute of limitations were raced clean
  • Everybody agrees he did not come off as sympathetic, and was cold and calculating

Third segment: Continuing discussion about Lance Armstrong

  • Which somehow turned into Sid Seixeiro talking about Ryan Seacrest and American Idol

6pm hour – Roundtable continues

First segment: Discussion of the Manti Te’o “fake girlfriend” story

  • Brunt thinks that it’s almost impossible for Te’o to not have been involved in some way with the stories he’s told
  • Bob asks that if it turned out Te’o is gay and was trying to hide it, would that make him more sympathetic, Shannon says no

Second segment: Who’s going to win the two NFL playoff games this weekend?

  • Bob and Seixeiro believes New England will win, while Shannon and Brunt believe Baltimore will
  • Bob thinks Atlanta will win, while the other three believe San Francisco will

Third segment: Prime Time Bullets

  • There’s only one bullet because everybody was making jokes, and it’s about Darren Oliver staying with the Blue Jays for another year
  • Brunt thinks this is good for the Jays because it gives them an effective situational lefty out of the pen
  • Shannon and Sid isn’t sure Oliver would have come back if the Jays hadn’t loaded up on talent, Brunt says he thinks he would have because he’d be leaving 3 million dollars on the table

Thoughts:

The roundtable really only had 3 segments because the first segment was just casual conversation about a variety of things, the third one was Sid being weird, and the bullets got derailed by people making fun of Bob.

The Lance Armstrong discussion and the Te’o discussion really didn’t break any new ground at all, and everybody basically agreed with each other about how they viewed the situation, so it wasn’t really that interesting to me.  I guess, there wasn’t really that much to talk about because Lance Armstrong’s interview was just so obviously self serving, and he showed no emotion, so what else can you really say but those two things?  And the Te’o situation is just too convoluted and contradictory to get any sense of what’s really going on, or even to get a sense about how to view Te’o.

The NFL discussion was mostly just Bob reiterating positions we’ve already heard, and everybody else disagreeing.

For the 4pm hour, I thought he and Zeisberger had a good discussion about the NFL, and Zeisberger brought a lot to the table about what he thought might happen and why.

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Alex
Alex
January 18, 2013 10:13 pm

Is Bob’s Super Bowl story about watching the game under the stadium part of PTS bingo? It should be. And you can add him watching Letterman on Oprah too.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 19, 2013 12:26 am
Reply to  Alex

Oh I forgot to mention that. Yeah… he’s said that story so many times, not just overall but in the last few months. Every time somebody mentions the Superbowl he tells the story of his one Superbowl experience.
We should make a PTS bingo just for Bob’s stories, cuz he has so many.

Off the top of my head, I can think of:

Being hired to do CBC sports, doing only one show and then some of the staff went on strike and he had to cross the picket line to pick up his single cheque…

Calling into Larry King’s show and being allowed to make a second point before being hung up on…

Going to the Toronto Summit Series game in 1972 with a friend who won tickets via a lottery.

Going to watch the Beatles when they were in Toronto.

Getting into a fight with Brian Burke on The Business of Sports (granted I’ve only heard this story twice, so maybe it shouldn’t count.)

The story about Leo Cahill in an Argos meeting under the bleachers during a Jays game, having it interrupted by loud cheering and saying “it’ll never be the same again.”

Having Brian Burke over in the summer of 2009, being by the pool and Burke telling him how the Leafs ranked defensemen and that getting Beauchemin and Komisarek meant that they’d make the playoffs and therefore any first round picks they traded would be low.

Interviewing Muhammad Ali before his final fight, taking pictures with him and going running with him.

Being at the Jays’ inaugural opening day and having somebody (can’t remember who) offering to buy his coat off him because it was so cold.

There are a few I know are said way too much but I just can’t remember them right now. : Anybody else remember some of Bob’s most common stories?

Sam
Sam
January 19, 2013 1:27 am
Reply to  Alex

Speaking of the bingo topic – does anyone have a link to the thread with all of Bob’s quotes / sayings? That should be perma-linked on TSM’s front page!

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 19, 2013 6:56 am
Reply to  Sam

That might be on the old comments… I thought all the old posts that didn’t have disqus comments had them wiped? :

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 19, 2013 6:57 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Oh! How could I forget >_> Bob’s story about having lunch with Jacques Rogge.

mike in boston
mike in boston
January 19, 2013 9:00 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

i think the comments were converted. I occasionally go into the archives when there were like 5 of us (as opposed to the legion we now are) who commented on this site to see what we were complaining about back then.

Miller from GTA
Miller from GTA
January 19, 2013 9:37 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Having lunch at Brent Musburger’s house when auditioning for a job in NYC.

Sam
Sam
January 19, 2013 10:00 am
Reply to  mike in boston

I searched on a few bob-isms but couldn’t locate that thread. I say if we can’t find it in a week, we have a new bob-ism thread where we can make a new list! Surely it wouldn’t take that long?

daver
daver
January 19, 2013 12:30 pm
Reply to  Sam
Sam
Sam
January 19, 2013 12:38 pm
Reply to  daver

Thanks I’ve not seen that before but no I meant the thread on this site where we all put in all the bobisms we could think of.
Subject: [torontosportsmedia] Re: Prime Time Sports Review for Friday, January 18, 2013

Nan Young Lee
Nan Young Lee
January 19, 2013 1:40 pm
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

1. The last Bear Bryant interview.
2. Saw Secretariat in TO, still has the ticket.
3. Gord Kirk bought one of the first flat-screen tvs for $17000
4. “Don’t stand on the Doug Ault”.
5. Shopping on Xmas eve, convenient stores still open, beef jerky makes an
excellent gift.
6. Pat Gillick asking for everyone’s opinion on baseball decisions.
7. Competition to name TO’s basketball team. The name Raptors was
first, second was the Bobcats.
8. UNLV season ticket holder.
9. Making Super Bowl chilli with big hunks of meat.
10. You can’t tell how hilly Augusta National is from TV.
11. Tom Cheek and Jerry Howarth didn’t hang out with each other.
12. Eating turkey on American Thanksgiving.

(Another) Andrew
(Another) Andrew
January 19, 2013 1:52 pm

So was Bob genuinely annoyed at “know-it-all” Shannon or was it just the usual taking the piss? Bringing up Shannon’s interruptions made me think there was something to it.

(Another) Andrew
(Another) Andrew
January 19, 2013 1:54 pm
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Some interview he did in Alabama for some big shot college coach or something.

Robert
Robert
January 19, 2013 4:25 pm
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Cite the case…

Robert
Robert
January 19, 2013 4:26 pm
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Raising a Spockian eyebrow…

Curt
Curt
January 19, 2013 6:46 pm

Watching the show last night, it really dawned on me: Bob has such contempt for his audience. I guess I always sort of knew this, but it became crystal clear to me this time. The same old boring stories – obviously he thinks his listeners are complete and total morons, because why else would he repeat his Super Bowl story for the 100th time? Other things too, like letting the run-in music play out until he finally has no choice but to begin the segment; wasting more air time with inane babble, etc. I don’t really watch/listen to him much anymore – only when Brunt is on – and it was hammered home to me why after this show. Bob, once one of the best in his business, hates his job and his audience. Fine with me, I’ve got laundry to do.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 19, 2013 8:45 pm
Reply to  Curt

I honestly don’t think he’s thinking of whether the listeners want to hear his stories or not, it’s about sharing the story with the people at the table, and anybody he thinks hasn’t heard it yet (in this case, probably Sid). I think he just likes talking about his stories and having new people hear them and laugh, etc… unfortunately he’s also on the radio while he’s doing it >_>

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 19, 2013 9:43 pm
Reply to  Sam

Yeah, I was part of that thread, I think I made like 50. >_> BackstagePTS noticed it and tweeted to me that I made them laugh. Can’t remember when it was though. 🙁

Nan Young Lee
Nan Young Lee
January 19, 2013 11:16 pm
Reply to  Curt

Bob’s ratings may have doubled in the past 2-3 years so there are probably a lot of people who haven’t heard these stories. The time taken up with repeating old stories probably take up a tiny fraction the hours he’s on the air during the year. But one way did he showed contempt for his audience recently was having Alan Eagleson on. He must know this would anger or disappoint some of his listeners. It was interesting how hard Bob was on Lance Armstrong because what Eagleson did was much worse.

And why do Bob and Brunt say Bettman’s successes were due to a rising tide that lifted the revenue of all sports but Eagleson’s deserve’s credit for raising players salaries even though the unions all the other sports also had similar increases. Either both deserve credit or both were merely on hand when historical forces caused all sports to thrive. Either way the most accurate description of Eagleson is the first sentence of his Wiki page, “Robert Allan Eagleson is a disbarred lawyer, and convicted felon in two countries……”

I was disappointed Bob Cole didn’t call tonight’s game. I know he make mistakes now, but growing up with him, he will always be my favourite. I read on the CBC’s site that something called the Canadian Screen Awards released their nominations last week. I was happy to see Bob Cole get a nod. TSN and CBC dominated the nominations:

Best Sports Play-by-Play Announcer:

2011 Vanier Cup – TSN (Bell Media) – Rod Black
Hockey Night in Canada – CBC (CBC) – Bob Cole
Hockey Night in Canada – CBC (CBC) – Jim Hughson
London 2012 Olympic Games – TSN (Bell Media) – Rod Smith

Best Sports Host or Analyst in a Sports Program or Sportscast:
NHL All-Star Fantasy Draft – TSN (Bell Media) – James Duthie
Hockey Night in Canada – CBC (CBC) – Glenn Healy
Scotiabank Hockey Day in Canada 2012 – CBC (CBC) – Ron MacLean
BC Sports Weekend – CBC (CBC) – Scott Russell
London 2012 Olympic Games – TSN (Bell Media) – Brian Williams

Best Sports Feature Segment:
Sportscentre – SportsCentre Maria Toor Pakay – TSN (Bell Media) – Mike Farrell, Ken Volden
London 2012 Olympic Games – Opening Essay – TSN (Bell Media) – Josh Shiaman, Brent Blanchard, Stephen Brunt, Alison Redmond, Don Young
Sportscentre – SportsCentre – Odell Willis – TSN (Bell Media) – Ken Volden, Josh Shiaman
London 2012 Olympic Games – Christine Sinclair – TSN (Bell Media) – Karen Zylak, Kara Lang, Alison Redmond, Don Young

Best Direction in a Live Sporting Event:
Hockey Night in Canada – Stanley Cup Finals GM7 – CBC (CBC) – Ron Forsythe
2012 IIHF World Junior Hockey Championship Semi-Final – TSN (Bell Media) – Paul Hemming
2011 Vanier Cup – TSN (Bell Media) – Dawn Landis

Best Live Sporting Event:
2011 Vanier Cup – TSN (Bell Media) – (TSN) – Paul Graham, Chris Edwards
2012 IIHF World Junior Hockey Championship Semi-Final – TSN (Bell Media) – (TSN) – Paul Graham, Jon Hynes
Hockey Night in Canada – CBC (CBC) – (CBC) – Trevor Pilling, Sherali Najak, Brian Spear
London 2012 Olympic Games – TSN (Bell Media) – (TSN) – Rick Chisholm, Mike Brannagan, Gord Cutler

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 20, 2013 7:04 am
Reply to  Sam

I found a site that randomly generates some bingo cards from a list of words, so this could allow us to have many bingo cards & not just 1 that ppl can “play” from. 😀

Anyway, so I started to remake the Bobisms list (sticking only to specific things he says, not stories), anybody got any I missed?

As God as my witness.

I don’t give a flying fadoo.

Truism (when he means “fact”)

Idiot producer

Jeff Blair, host of the Jeff Blair Show starring Jeff Blair

Rob Becker, our legal beagle

He’s just a guy.

Lying scumbucket/bag.

Scum-sucking.

Tapping his/our foot like Sonic the Hedgehog.

Spockian eyebrow.

Dog’s breakfast.

Dog with fleas.

Alphonse and Gaston.

Bleepin’

Michelob (shanking a ball in golf)

Bite me.

Kicking ass, taking names.

If the creek don’t rise…

John Shhhhhhaaannon

The topic is yours to choose.

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut.

Fish murderer. (Fisherman)

Beelzebub. (His wife)

They’re in over the line. (Foster Hewitt Impression)

Cor-noy-er (Foster Hewitt Impression)

He’s going in the black book.

Sam and Ted (Tim and Sid)

It’s difficult for me to…

EBITDA

My Brownies (The Cleveland Browns)

Gooner (Nick Kypreos)

How are ya coach?/Hey ya coach! (To any former or current Toronto Raptors coach)

They/he/she couldn’t plan a one car parade.

Speak. (To callers to prompt them to start talking.)

The Unholy Alliance.

The Count (Gary Bettman)

Bud Light (Bud Selig)

He’s a stiff!

Hockey pucks (hockey reporters/analysts/NHL loyalists)

Sportsnet Corrected (Sportsnet Connected)

One of our favourite people…

The sieve goaltender

My friend Brunt and I…

I hate working alone…

There’s nothing like a well produced radio show, and this is nothing like a well produced radio show.

Am I lyin’?

Self appointed, self annointed (usually referring to Stephen Brunt trying to produce the show)

Don’t hurt yourself thinking (sometimes just “don’t hurt yourself” in reference to somebody trying to think of an answer)

Miller from GTA
Miller from GTA
January 20, 2013 8:16 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Claud Thamalfachuck

mike in boston
mike in boston
January 20, 2013 9:19 am
Reply to  Curt

Best thing i’ve read on this site. Really well said Curt.

mike in boston
mike in boston
January 20, 2013 9:23 am
Reply to  Nan Young Lee

this is a great post too. Bob using PTS to prop up the visibility of people like Eagleson and Tillman tells you a lot about his principles.

Sam
Sam
January 20, 2013 9:38 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

I tend to subscribe to this view. Bob’s job is to maximize ratings, which he appears to be doing with a show better entitled “McCown and Company” (oddly enough). While he does drive me nuts from time to time as well with his BS, on the whole I’d rather listen to his show than others. If you want serious, go to TSN.

I doubt Bob needs to work. Or if he does, and his ratings went down, he’d make the required adjustments.

And hey, at least Kirke isn’t on anymore. Now Shannon just needs to be dealt with. Note – I dislike Cox like many of the folks on here but at least he is capable of raising his game from time to time. Shannon does not have another gear, except for the two times a year they get into the minutiae of Sports TV production.

Alex
Alex
January 20, 2013 12:01 pm
Reply to  Curt

Just look at Bob freely admits he does no prep for the show. It’s amazing he doesn’t know who the guests will be until he reads the rundown.

And Shannon, while often annoying on PTS, is often good when he fills in on the Marek v Wyshynski podcast, since Marek just asks him about TV production or gets him to tell old stories.

Daniel
Daniel
January 20, 2013 2:27 pm
Reply to  Curt

I think people sometimes forget that a lot of radio is schtick. They’re performers. Bobs thing is he acts grumpy and dismissive of the sports he covers.

Totally fair that you don’t like it, but I think thr schtick has served him well.

Daniel
Daniel
January 20, 2013 3:53 pm
Reply to  Alex

“Just look at Bob freely admits he does no prep for the show. It’s
amazing he doesn’t know who the guests will be until he reads the
rundown.”

Again. Schtick.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 20, 2013 9:11 pm
Reply to  Daniel

Yeah, I assume most of his persona isn’t actually true. Like his “I don’t care what people will do, I’ll do what I want!” It’s like a Steve Austin thing…

Curt
Curt
January 20, 2013 11:14 pm
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Yes, but I don’t really care what he’s like at home. His “schtick” is tiresome (at least for me) and he became a caricature of himself years ago – not unlike Cherry. As for his ratings, all I can say is a lot of people like being treated like shit.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 20, 2013 11:57 pm
Reply to  mike in boston

And Bruce McNall.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 21, 2013 12:00 am
Reply to  Sam

I’m okay with Kirke on the roundtables because while he doesn’t know a lot sometimes, he won’t act like he does the way Shannon does, and he won’t shout you down or interrupt just to insist on his point.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 21, 2013 12:03 am
Reply to  Curt

I wasn’t defending his persona. I was merely responding to Daniel.

Curt
Curt
January 21, 2013 12:23 am
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Not meaning any offence. I was just responding generally to a few of the prior posts.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 21, 2013 12:25 am

http://imgur.com/a/MrVs1 Here! have some Bingo cards! (Or Fadoo cards I guess)

mike in boston
mike in boston
January 21, 2013 8:47 am

not a good day for PTS on the 16th. During the T’eo story Bob referred to him as a Heisman winner and Brunt referred to the girlfriend as having died in a car crash.

kyle
kyle
January 21, 2013 1:17 pm
Reply to  Nan Young Lee

The Canadian Screen Awards have replaced the Geminis (TV) and Genies (film) as one award ceremony – I guess kind of like the Golden Globes. It’s been done to “increase exposure”, to not fragment the audience (IMO), and to take away the age old question “Are the Geminis/Genies for TV of film?”

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