Prime Time Sports Review for Tuesday, January 22, 2013

By Ami Angelwings

4pm hour – Bob McCown hosting

First segment: Interview with Paul Jones, FAN590 Toronto Raptors play-by-play commentator

  • Bob talks with Jones about the Lakers, Jones thinks that D’Antoni should be fired and that Mike Brown was never the problem and his strategies were sound
  • Bob wonders if the Raptors should trade for Nash or Gasol, Jones thinks that Gasol would be a good fit, but that they’d have to change their style to play with Nash
  • Jones suggests that the Celtics want to blow up their team and the Raptors should go looking, Bob says the Celtics have nothing he wants unless they would give up Rondo
  • Bob and Jones get to talking about the CFL and Bruce McNall, Bob says that McNall did good things for the NHL but Gary Bettman thought the LA Kings success could be sustained and expanded to the sunbelt

Second segment: Interview with Michael Heistand, USA Today

  • Bob and Heistand talk about the amount of Superbowl coverage on TV
  • Heistand points out that nobody seems to be talking about the murders that Ray Lewis was accused in

5pm hour – Bob McCown hosting, Sid Seixeiro co-hosting for first segment, Damien Cox co-hosting for the rest

First segment: Talk segment

  • Damien Cox is late so Sid Seixeiro fills in as co-host
  • Bob and Seixeiro talk about random things
  • Bob and Seixeiro argue about whether Bill Belichick should have spoken to the media after the game, Bob doesn’t care whether he does or not, says that coaches have nothing interesting to say

Second segment: Interview with Nick Kypreos, Sportsnet hockey analyst

  • Damien Cox now replaces Sid Seixeiro as co-host
  • Cox says that the problem with MLSE is that they don’t have a CEO, and suggests that Gretzky would be a good fit for the job
  • Cox asks if the league would want Gretzky as president of the Leafs with the Phoenix Coyotes situation unresolved, Kypreos thinks they would want the Coyotes resolved first
  • Bob thinks that Gary wouldn’t want Gretzky in Toronto because he’d be wasted in Toronto and should be in a market where he “sellS” the game
  • Kypreos says that Jordan is in Charlotte, and could also be considered a “waste”, Cox and Bob agree

Third segment: Interview with Dale Tallon, Florida Panthers General Manager

  • Tallon talks about the Panthers and Alex Kovalev
  • Bob asks what the bar for the Panthers is, Tallon says that realistically it’s about being competitive while developing young players

6pm hour – Bob McCown hosting, Damien Cox co-hosting

First segment: Interview with Bob Ryan, Boston Globe

  • Ryan says that Belichick shouldn’t give post-game interviews if he won’t say anything after them, but still thinks Belichick shouldn’t have snubbed the media
  • Ryan says that Belichick is good at interviews on the days following a game, but is terrible after a game
  • Cox asks about Terry Francona’s allegation that the Boston Red Sox have become all about glitz, Ryan says that the Red Sox ownership has recently gotten involved in all sorts of other entertainment and sports enterprises and that’s affected the team
  • Ryan says that the Red Sox salary range will be around the 150-170 range but they’re scared of the luxury tax
  • Ryan says the Red Sox are spending too much money on good but not great players
  • Cox believes that Manti Te’o is just an innocent goofy kid who got himself way in over his head, but that there are no sinister things going on with either him or Notre Dame
  • Ryan says that it’s hard to believe that Te’o couldn’t attract a real person, and that it’s hard to buy the whole story because otherwise Te’o is amazingly stupid
  • Ryan also points out that Notre Dame continued to act as if Te’o had a real girlfriend even after they were supposedly told
  • Cox says that he understands why Te’o would continue to lie to avoid humiliation, Bob says that nobody would keep up a hoax for 4 years
  • Bob again brings up the theory that Te’o might be gay, thinks if he came out that he’d go up in the draft because people would be sympathetic

Second segment: Interview with Michael McCann, Sports Illustrated legal analyst

  • McCann talks about the Rooney rule in the NFL that teams have to interview at least one African American coaching candidate
  • Bob says he’s always been uncomfortable with the rule and how it’s been applied, and that it shouldn’t be policy, but owners taking the lead and hiring minority coaches and saying they’re a good idea

Third segment: Interview with Wayne Parrish, president of Canada Basketball

  • Bob asks Parrish how often he talks to Steve Nash, Parrish says he talks to him fairly often
  • Cox asks if Nash, who is GM of Team Canada, turning down the Raptors would hurt people wanting to play for Canada, Parrish says that everybody respects that Nash made the decision for his family and won’t hold it against the program

Thoughts:

I find it interesting that Bob seems to only “blame” McNall for the NHL southern expansion because of the Gretzky trade, but not for hiring Gary Bettman to enact it.  I know Bob likes McNall and hates Bettman which is why he’s framing it that way, but McNall is the one who hired Bettman to be commissioner and part of Bettman’s mandate (from what I understand) was to expand the NHL.

During the Kypreos interview, I was waiting for somebody to point out that part of Jordan’s limited profile in the NBA as an owner/manager is because of how he’s alienated so many people in his mismanagement of the Wizards and now the Bobcats, but neither Bob or Cox did.  His situation isn’t quite the same as Gretzky’s, nor is his reputation as a non-player.

Sportsnet is now making that interview a big deal and acting as if Bob had somehow broken this “news” when, as far as I can tell, Cox just came up with Gretzky’s name out of his own speculation and Bob and Kypreos ran with it.  It didn’t seem like anybody had any insider information or that there’s even any hints this might happen, but it’s a headline on Sportsnet.ca now.

I’m glad that at least Cox believes it’s possible to fall in love online and just get carried away with thinking you found your perfect partner online.  Not that it’s LOGICAL or makes sense (few things involving emotions, hormones, and youth do), but it’s just nice to see him say that it happens and it isn’t unusual, and neither are fake internet identities, because of how many older people analyzing this situation are just saying “that’s ridiculous and could never happen!”

I do agree with Bob though that 4 years seems too long a time to keep this up, simply just because I would think people would get bored with having to commit hours of their day to talk to a guy they don’t actually like online, especially if there was a girl involved who had to pretend to be her on voice.  I mean if it WAS 4 years, she’d practically be his girlfriend, or it’d be like her job.

Bob seems surprisingly invested in the theory that Te’o is gay.  He keeps bringing it up every chance he gets. o_O   I think Bob is severely underestimating the homophobia that would come out, or be added on to the already hostile treatment that Te’o is getting, if Te’o revealed that this was all because he was trying to hide that he’s gay, though.  It’s good that Bob would be sympathetic to Te’o, but I think that a lot of people (especially online) would just add the fa-word to their negative statements about his character.  Also, others might still have an issue with the way he played it up, and had everybody caring for a fake dead person.

That was a really long conversation with Bob Ryan about Te’o, and I know a lot of people are uninterested in the story and the speculation, so I wonder how many people tuned out during it (or are tuning this review out.  xD)

Bob seemed confused about what “Tom Brady’s slide” could have meant when it was put on his topics list, so I’m guessing he isn’t up on the controversy about that?  Bob wondered if it was about an emotional slide (i.e. that Tom Brady was depressed).

The Bodog ads continue to make me laugh.  They sound like the back of a video game package or fantasy novel.  “Hockey defied the odds, and its greatness will fulfill its destinyyyyyyyy.”

Nothing particularly really interested me on this show.  I have thoughts on the Te’o situation only in a general sense as it pertains to internet culture and what COULD be possible, but as I said before, anything could still be possible (if, highly improbable) and we really still don’t have enough facts to know.

This was a very speculative show though, with all the Te’o talk, who the Raptors might want to trade for, and the discussion about Gretzky being President and CEO of MLSE.

On Bob Bingo, this show reminded me of two more Bobisms I forgot: “Thing One and Thing Two” and “commit Hari Kiri”.

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Itchy Butt
Itchy Butt
January 23, 2013 6:51 am

“Damien Cox now replaces Sid Seixeiro as co-host”

….and there is all you need to know about the rest of the show.

Was I alone in being BEYOND F***ING IRRITATED with Bob calling them the RAPAtors and the LaLakers???? Once was fine, twice was grating, but for the love of L. Ron Hubbard……that was a painful segment.
So can I get this straight? The only source for this Gretzky/Leafs thing is Cox just casually throwing his name in there and the other 2 idiots running with it?

Alex
Alex
January 23, 2013 7:16 am

Bobcat … Not a fan of the Rooney Rule.

Also surprised he hasnt dropped the “te’.o is gay” part of the narrstibe.

mike in boston
mike in boston
January 23, 2013 7:54 am
Reply to  Itchy Butt

and another TSN/SN pissing match will begin as each side tries to either credit or discredit the story …

the FAN’s website is currently leading with the Gretzky “story” while also promoting a tweet from Cox about how idle chatter can lead to social media speculation.
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if “Brunting” is trying to scoop others by claiming something is done when it is not actually finalized, what is reporting on casual banter as if it were actual news? “Rogering the story?” “FANning a story?”

Roger
Roger
January 23, 2013 8:28 am

Totally agree, I-Butt.

I could handle Sid – when Cox came on it was all down hill. And that ridiculous idea of Gretzky as President is a wet dream for Cox. What better ass to kiss than the Great
Ones???

Trust me folks, Gretz is not coming to Toronto.

Drumanchor
Drumanchor
January 23, 2013 11:01 am
Reply to  Roger

I really enjoyed Tim & Sid when they first came on the air as I thought they were fresh, topical and enjoyed the change from the previous incarnations that ran during that time slot. However, I now find Sid difficult to listen to. Like Homer Simpson, his act gets dumber and more adolescent with each show . I once heard a full segment on fart jokes after they played clips from a Rex Ryan presser. Fart jokes for 15 minutes? Really? What are we, 12 years old?

That coupled with the endless..”(Insert name) here on Tim & Sid on Sportsnet 590 The Fan” before every single question he asks his guests. He does it about 4 or 5 times each and every segment.

Earth to mentally 12 year old radio host – We know what we are listening to!

Itchy Butt
Itchy Butt
January 23, 2013 11:45 am
Reply to  Drumanchor

But at least they let you know who they’re talking to. McCown will go a while segment without even introducing the guest sometimes! He thinks he’s sitting on his porch having a beer.

Kamlesh
Kamlesh
January 23, 2013 11:50 am

The Rooney rule doesn’t mandate hiring quotas only that the pool of interviewees should include minorites. This doesn’t seem so burdensome and should be extended as the NFL is thnking about doing. At least is gives some people the chance to impress during an interview. It’s a small thing and I don’t know why Bob is against it. There was a time when Jewish students, like Lionel Trilling, were told by Wasp professors they could not appreciate English literature. After Alan Dershowitz finished first in his class at Harvard Law, he sent his resume out to the top firms in Wall Street and got exactly zero interviews. Bob says teams want to win and should be able to hire and interview who they want, but what makes him so confident that all the top candidates are selected or interviewed. Wouldn’t a law firm want the top Harvard Law graduate? Well they didn’t in this case and probable countless others.

Sometimes even if your opions can be prejudiced with you being aware of it, as this Macolm Gladwell pointed out in his writing about the orchestral audition process:
http://hornworld.me/2011/07/27/malcolm-gladwells-blink-part-2-listening-with-your-eyes/

Roger
Roger
January 23, 2013 12:19 pm
Reply to  Drumanchor

Drum,

I agree Sid & Tim can be annoying but when Sid is on PTS he seems to raise his IQ and maturity level a few notches. The guy knows his stuff – he just has to focus on showing us he does and not revert to stuff that a 12 yr old would find funny.

Mullah_Kintyre
Mullah_Kintyre
January 23, 2013 4:22 pm

I’m on McCown’s side regarding pointless coach and player interviews, particularly right after a game ends. Seixeiro’s opposing argument along the lines of “but he has to say something!” (why? just to provide a bunch useless cliché sound bites to put after game highlights, I suppose?) is weak. I have never figured out why anyone would expect someone’s ability to coach, or run, throw, etc., should somehow also mean they must be a stand-up comedian or a great orator who always has something profound to say. If anything, wouldn’t you expect them to be less articulate than the average person? It’s the job of the media people to come up with something interesting or entertaining, and some of them seem angered at having to do their jobs instead of getting the coaches and players to do it for them.

mike in boston
mike in boston
January 23, 2013 4:27 pm
Reply to  Mullah_Kintyre

It’s the job of the media people to come up with something interesting or entertaining, and some of them seem angered at having to do their jobs instead of getting the coaches and players to do it for them.

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very very well said. Two examples that support your point:

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Lazy Questions: “how important was it to come out with energy in the 2nd period?”

Non Questions:: “talk a little about the need for toughness down the stretch.”

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If you ask a lazy question you shouldn’t be upset if you get a lazy answer. If you ask a non-question then you shouldn’t expect ANY answer.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 23, 2013 7:02 pm
Reply to  Alex

He’s not a fan in that he doesn’t think it’s an effective way of promoting diversity in hiring. Not that he’s against diversity in hiring.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 23, 2013 7:03 pm
Reply to  Kamlesh

Bob is against it because he doesn’t think it’s an effective way to promote diversity, and that it doesn’t work. It’s not that he doesn’t want more black coaches to be hired. Just to be fair to what he meant.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 23, 2013 7:08 pm
Reply to  Itchy Butt

Yup, the entire thing started with Cox casually saying that he thought Gretzky would be a good fit for CEO of MLSE. Bob and Kypreos discussed what they thought, and agreed he would be. Nobody said that he would be, or that they knew anything behind the scenes.

Then Sportsnet published a front page article (that was really just a link to the segment) about how Gretzky might be coming to Toronto. Bob also tweeted about it suggesting that there’s been “whispers” (or some word like that) behind the scenes. And the entire thing took off, with Sportsnet pretty heavily pushing it.

All the articles I saw last night about it link to the Sportsnet “article”. And it became broken telephone where it goes from “discussion” to “possible” to “almost definitely”.

Ami_Angelwings
Ami_Angelwings
January 23, 2013 7:12 pm
Reply to  Mullah_Kintyre

A lot of stuff around sports reporting and commentary is so pointless. Whether it’s the obligatory interviews where players say that they’re giving 110% and have to take it one game at a time, or the coaches saying the team needs to play better in the second half, or “we just didn’t execute”, or all those questions MiB said below, or in-game commentators saying “oh they really wanted to score that time” or “you can tell they didn’t want to make that mistake” or some other eye-rolling comment, it’s all just talk to fill time.

Kamlesh
Kamlesh
January 23, 2013 8:30 pm
Reply to  Ami_Angelwings

Yes, you’re right. Never, in all the time I have listened to him have I ever felt Bob was being bigoted. If that’s how my post read, that’s my fault. I was just making my case for keeping the Rooney rule. I think that changing the interview rules might help more than Bob thinks it would. And if it hasn’t yielded the desired outcome yet, maybe it should be tinkered with first, rather than scrapped. I wonder if the NFL was influenced by Dan Ariely’s research on behavioural economics and decision making.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X68dm92HVI

Drumanchor
Drumanchor
January 24, 2013 10:44 am
Reply to  Itchy Butt

Itchy,

I’m all for letting the listener know who is being interviewed. It keeps them more engaged and less likely to change stations if they have know idea who is talking. That being said, to mention it so many times in a relatively short segment along with telling your the name of the show, the name of the radio station and then name of the corporate owner of that station – goes too far. Ass kissing, as far as I’m concerned and annoying for me. Makes me switch to 1050.

No one else at the station feels the need to say it like Sid.

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