Changes at TSN Radio Toronto

By TSM

Breaking news from TSN radio toronto. Here’s what multiple sources are telling me, could be a little different but these are the basics:

James Cybulski is out as afternoon drive host and is returning to TSN TV.

Dave Naylor is the new afternoon drive host.

Bob Mackowycz going to a different radio earlier in day, I’m not sure where yet.

More and analysis later

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Shawn S
Shawn S
February 8, 2013 10:36 am

Cybulski needed to go. Dave Naylor though?

mario
mario
February 8, 2013 10:57 am

Hopefully this is s step in the right direction..

alex
alex
February 8, 2013 11:00 am

Great news.

If it was naylor and arthur, id definitely choose it over pts

Mike S
Mike S
February 8, 2013 11:07 am

Scott MacArthur just anoounced that he will be the new baseball reporter (covering the Jays) for TSN 1050……………he will no longer be the host from 9 AM to noon on weekdays but he says the show will remain local (ie: no Dan Patrick show)

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[…] Changes at TSN Radio TorontoToronto Sports MediaBreaking news from TSN radio toronto. Here’s what multiple sources are telling me, could be a little different but these are the basics: James Cybulski is out as afternoon drive host and is returning to TSN TV. Dave Naylor is the new afternoon drive host. […]

JMK
JMK
February 8, 2013 11:18 am

I got hooked on the Dan Patrick show when they started with that 9-noon. Now I don’t listen to 1050 at all, and listen to DP show via their website instead.

Too bad they want local programming all day. It’s too much of the same crap all day long.

I prefer Mike Richards to the Fan morning show but it’s PTS all the way in the evening for me…

alex
alex
February 8, 2013 11:29 am

TSM tweeted that mackowycz is moving to 9-12

mike (in boston)
mike (in boston)
February 8, 2013 11:31 am

wow … i came here this morning to bitch about Cybulski’s moronic analysis of Morrow as not much more than a career .500 pitcher.
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i’m not going to say i told you so, but … a while back i stated that the priorities for TSNR ought to be giving Naylor a more prominent role on the afternoon drive show, and committing to a full time baseball person for the Jays. if these details are correct then this is an excellent step forward for TSNR.
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my 2 cents are that they should rename the afternoon show “The Reporters (on radio” or something like that and rotate Naylor’s co-hosts between Feschuck, Arthur, and Simmons. All 4 of those guys are very strong on radio and I would choose all of them ahead of Cox and Shannon, and some of them ahead of Brunt.

mike (in boston)
mike (in boston)
February 8, 2013 11:34 am

p.s. congrats to TSM for breaking this.

alex
alex
February 8, 2013 11:39 am

Ive usually enjoyed naylors sat afternoon show, so im glad hes getting a bigger (and podcastable) show.

mike (in boston)
mike (in boston)
February 8, 2013 11:54 am

p.p.s – if TSNR wants to do some market research, they should have a look at this long thread (remember when we had those?) from 2010 when TSM ‘nailed it’ on the value of call-in shows vs. guests.

http://torontosportsmedia.com/sports-and-toronto/calls-vs-guests-fan-590/9264

bonus: Daniel admits that he likes Andrew Krystal on the radio …

Julian
Julian
February 8, 2013 12:13 pm

There are “call segments” and “call segments” though.

If a topic is well-researched and planned and provides a forum for debate, then a call or two (three at the most) can add to a lively discussion, for certain. Brady does this extremely well as do many of the ESPN shows.

When a host just does “open lines” like McCown does or how Jack Armstrong & Eric Smith used to do, then it’s pure laziness. The host just sits back, has the content provided for him and then reacts. Honestly, I listen to sports radio for entertaining and well-researched hosts and topics. If you’re funny (and many aren’t) it’s a huge bonus to laugh once in a while.

Doing “open lines” is like you telling Letterman or Jimmy Kimmel a joke and asking them to react to it. I want to react to THEM, not the other way around. None of the successful US hosts would ever do open lines nationally. It’s a dying concept, and thank God.

I’d guess the Fan has backed off the “take lots of calls” idea though. Tim and Sid take none, but their flaw is the show is far too “twitter-based”. Maybe 10 percent of an audience, just a guess, at a time is actively on twitter during the show, and I’m thinking that’s a high estimate, so it’s totally excluding the other 90 percent who just want the radio product.

I don’t mind a few tweets getting read to get a feel for public opinion, but outside of Sid overdosing on one-liner attempts and the twitter overkill, they have a good show. Dial it down, Sid.

As for the TSN moves, Cybulski needed more help than he got, but it probably wasn’t a great fit for him. Saying that, Mackowyz was a terrible fit for him and I won’t listen to a second of him in his slot, not that McArthur was any more interesting. I think TSN’s realizing they just need to make sure the boat doesn’t completely sink, somehow establish itself and then maybe a few years from now, they could take a run at the Fan’s numbers.

I bet if TSM could dig it up in the archives, tons of people predicted huge things for 1050 and doom and gloom for the Fan. The Fan’s ratings have surged and TSN has barely registered a blip. Huge mistake by TSN not to leap at Tim & Sid when they were available, get on the air when Andrew Krystal was still on at 590, and obviously the Mike Richards move.

I have huge doubts Dave Naylor will move the needle, but that’s me. I just don’t see him as having a lot of big opinions, being funny, or conducting great interviews. Yes, all of those things matter. He’s an “information” guy to me.

Bob McKenzie and Darren Dregger are great at what they do, but you wouldn’t give either of them a 3-hour show, would you?

They needed to try something. Interesting that they take aim at McCown in the afternoon rather than Brady in the mornings. It has to have something to do with Richards and his huge contract. Cybulski can go back to TV, but Richards has nowhere to go in the organization.

Daniel
Daniel
February 8, 2013 12:24 pm

@mike – haha. I definitely didn’t hold that opinion for too long a time. I thought maybe it could turn into something at first, but what a disaster he was.

Mike
Mike
February 8, 2013 12:43 pm

Wow… Dave Naylor is HORRIBLE!!! He is the absolute worst choice for afternoon’s.

Not that Cybulski was even remotely good.

I guess it continues to be McCown for me.

itchy butt
itchy butt
February 8, 2013 12:52 pm

Took long enough!

Raptors Devotee
Raptors Devotee
February 8, 2013 1:01 pm

Just seeing this now. Cybulski was so bad I never even remotely took him seriously, so as far as I am concerned, anybody replacing him at least I will check out with an open mind.

Naylor is more of an intellectual, a strong writer who I can see myself relating to well. He does not have a strong personality though, so it will be interesting to see if he asserts himself or defers.

At least know more Mackowycz saying “You Know James” which drove me nuts when I accidentally tuned in on occasion.

Phil
Phil
February 8, 2013 1:13 pm

What? C-Balls is out? That sucks! I hope its what he wanted! If so all the best to him back in his t.v role! If not I hope this isn’t a big mistake by 1050, he was the voice on a daily basis for my ride home from work! D-Nails will get a day or 2 to grab my attention an not much more!

Nan Young Lee
Nan Young Lee
February 8, 2013 1:16 pm

Naylor? Agree with Julian – more sports info and analysis than entertainment. Maybe this is the plan, as the general, peripheral sports fan might move to Bill Carroll on 640, so compete with PTS with more hardcore sports show. Maybe this is already happening, why call in Brunt for the 4pm hour yesterday? For Bob to bring in chili to Tim and Sid the other day was just a ruse to appear on the show, as opposed to having Tim stay over for 20 minutes. Has Carroll already begun landing haymakers on Bob? I thought it would take a 12 to 18 months? He certainly is extremely entertaining, and you don’t have to worry about Alan Eagelson being on.

I like Mackowycz(who along with Cauz and Hogan are my favourites at 1050), but I feel he his better in a supporting role. When Cybul was off and Macko was solo, he was less effective. But maybe he can improve like Sammut did. He’s as intelligent and thoughtful as any on air personality on either 590 or 1050.

dragonballz342562
dragonballz342562
February 8, 2013 1:20 pm

I personally liked Cybulski at times. I thought he interviewed guests well and it was natural. Makowitz is terrible, I find him to be very annoying and I disagree with 99% of everything he says. Naming Naylor as the new afternoon drive host is a big mistake in my opinion. He comes across as a very bland person, and he is almost as big of a dork as Jim Lang.

Overall, TSN radio has been a pretty big disappointment. With the personalities under Bell’s umbrella you would of thought they could come up with some better programming. I would rather listen to The Fan over any show on TSN, with the exception of Hayes occassionally (Sid is too much to handle sometimes).

Mike C
Mike C
February 8, 2013 2:26 pm

If they were smart they would have brought in Jay and Dan to take over afternoon drive. The podcast they do does solid numbers. And maybe tried to bring in a co hosting tandem of Bob Mackowycz and Gareth Wheeler for the 9-12 slot.

Scott MacArthur is a nice option for Jays coverage. Wilner is just such a arrogant little weasel.

But they still have Mike Richards in the morning which is there biggest problem. He is horrendous. Knows nothing about sports and has about as horrible material as Jay Leno.

They need a new morning show desperately.

I like the idea floated in the earlier post about a Reporters on radio with Dave Naylor and rotating TSN Reporters regulars as co hosts.

Alex
Alex
February 8, 2013 2:47 pm

Theyve certainly experimented with that idea, when they do those hour long reporters specials, with hodge, arthur, simmons and afrber/naylor/feschuk either at 3pm or 7pm.

Daniel
Daniel
February 8, 2013 2:50 pm

If TSN brought in Jay and Dan or Mitch Melnick or an actual big name, you’d get the sense they were trying to actually take a run at The Fan.

As it is, it feels like they’re just trying to keep it viable. Dave Naylor seems pretty smart, but it’s a bit crazy to put him up against The Fan’s premiere show and hope to get anything but hammered. He’s not exactly a name or an experienced radio host. Maybe I’ll be wrong. Or maybe TSN genuinely doesn’t care and right now views TSN Radio as a just a small compliment to the cable TV side.

Julian
Julian
February 8, 2013 4:26 pm

Can people stop with the Onrait and O’Toole idea of them being radio stars? They do what they do, and they do it well. Handling 15-20 hours of radio talk and prepping is a different animal, I’d figure. Anyone hear the Darren Dutchyshen Show disaster a couple summers ago on that station? How’d Cybulski do? Maybe Ken Reid and Evanka Osmak should host a 3-hour show on 590 because, hey, they’re on tv and they read highlight packages. And they make each other giggle.

That said, did everyone overestimate the amount of “talent” in Toronto or in Canada as a whole? There are two sports stations in the biggest sports city in the country and I’m not sure there’s enough talent across the country to put a successful show in each slot on both stations. I must admit, I thought it’d be easy to fill lineups on both stations. It’s not. The fill-in or part-time talent on both stations is really, really shaky.

Daniel
Daniel
February 8, 2013 4:49 pm

“Can people stop with the Onrait and O’Toole idea of them being radio stars? They do what they do, and they do it well. Handling 15-20 hours of radio talk and prepping is a different animal”

I’m not saying they’d be instant stars. But if TSN put them, or someone similar on radio, I would perceive that as more of a real attempt at filling TSN Radio with recognizable names/talents than what they’re doing now.

Lance D.
Lance D.
February 8, 2013 6:47 pm

About time TSNR made major changes! Love all the comments. Good to TSM for reporting this.

Thanks.

Paul L
Paul L
February 8, 2013 10:02 pm

Nothing against Cybulski, but he was never a strong radio host. I am glad TSN is changing it up because I would love an alternative to McCown who I find so tiresome sometimes, but I don’t think Dave Naylor is going to do it for me. I keep hoping TSN radio will bring a guy like Mike Toth or Don Landry in. I know they have been around the block a few times, but Toth’s sports show on 1010 is outstanding and at least he has some personality and opinion and knows sports. Same with Landry, his sports knowledge is great and now that he isnt’ on the Fan anymore I miss him. Hopefully Mike Richards is next to go. A host on an all-sports radio who doesn’t know sports drives me crazy!

mike (in boston)
mike (in boston)
February 10, 2013 9:26 am

just listened to the final hour of Cybulski from earlier this week, prior to Hogan taking over. Didn’t sound like he knew this was coming. Best of luck to him in his non-radio ventures.

mike (in boston)
mike (in boston)
February 10, 2013 9:37 am

Julian: did everyone overestimate the amount of “talent” in Toronto or in Canada as a whole? There are two sports stations in the biggest sports city in the country and I’m not sure there’s enough talent across the country to put a successful show in each slot on both stations. I must admit, I thought it’d be easy to fill lineups on both stations. It’s not. The fill-in or part-time talent on both stations is really, really shaky.
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awesome question. for my part, there has always been a huge disparity between PTS and everything else, though that gap is significantly smaller these days. so i didn’t have high hopes that this would usher in a new era of sports radio excellence.
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overall, i am just glad to have choices. there are a handful of people who have no business being on radio before 10pm on a weekday, but for the most part the Blairs and Hayes’ are fine at what they do, and occasionally have very good segments.

Chici
Chici
February 10, 2013 12:30 pm

I liked Cybulski, but found that Mackowycz always wanted to show he was smarter than everyone, and disagreed with everyone. He got to be uncomfortable to listen to. I definitely will change the station when he is on.

Rob in Aurora
Rob in Aurora
February 11, 2013 12:32 pm

No accounting for taste and preferences, but I just can NOT stand Bob McCown. I didn’t mind Cybulski and Mackowicz becasue they were my only alternative. Listening to McCown and his crew of sycophants make me feel 100 years old. It’s like listening to a bunch of big shot stiff pr_cks at a country club prattle on. Way too self important. I can not imagine how people listen to him (them) – I always disliked Damien Cox anyway, so there was no way I could stand tuning in…

bulletboy
bulletboy
February 12, 2013 6:22 pm

Matt Cauz is witty and hilarious!
I thought that he “made” the Richards show when he was on it!
I think he deserves a shot.
Also… agree completely with “Rob in Aurora”… McCowan is sickening!

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