Are Toronto Blue Jays Getting A Free Pass?


Good debate on Twitter tonight.

Imagine if in the off season the Maple Leafs traded prized prospects and kids for a complete overhaul of the franchise. They fired their coach and brought back an old one, say Ron Wilson and expectations heading into the season were high as a kite and then unfortunately the team struggled in the first few games of the season.

Can you imagine the roasting the team, the players, the GM and the coach would bet getting?

Call in shows, articles, editorials, cartoons…..

The Leafs would be getting blasted, despite the fact the season was barely underway.

Not saying any of the criticism would be warranted, but we all know it would be there.

Here the Toronto Blue Jays are and for the most part they are being left alone. Not too many articles being written about the manager or the GM are there?

For whatever reason there is a double standard in this town on how those who cover the teams do so. If this were the Leafs, they’d be getting blasted. The Jays? Not so much.

I am not saying all is lost for the Blue Jays. Hell, I am watching them every night. I am saying that they are getting much easier treatment from the press than the Leafs ever do. That’s a fact.


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Mike V
Mike V
April 23, 2013 6:55 am

No, I don’t think that if the Leafs were the pre-season cup favourites and then started say 3-5-1 that the media would be any much different than the media is now.

Maybe its because you a such a die-hard Leafs fan but I always find you reaching for this narrative.

Ami Angelwings
April 23, 2013 7:14 am

I agree with Mike V. Also, part of the reason that the media isn’t panicking is that they don’t think the Jays performance is indicative of how they will play for the rest of the season. The bats are ice cold but this early in the season is too early to project that they will stay that way for the next 5 months. They’d be at historically bad hitting levels if they continued this way.

Like I said before, there’s a difference between saying “this team is playing like crap” (they are, absolutely) and “this team is crap” which means that this is the performance we should continue to expect and is indicative of how this team will play for the rest of the season. It’s too early to suggest that, unless you believe that all the players have regressed to a new normal. Maybe, ultimately, this team won’t get it together and will lose like 100 games, but it’s too early to infer that a 20 game sample space is the new normal vs. the previous performance of these players, in my opinion.

It’s like when Kessel goes cold, people know he’ll get hot at some point. If he gets cold in the first month, it’s not an indication he’ll score 0 goals for the rest of the season, just like if he gets hot in the first month, it’s not an indication he’ll score 100 goals. Or like that first season of Cito’s return when the Jays were in first place after April. That wasn’t an indication the team was good, just an indication the team was playing well at the time. That’s why the media have not jumped on the Jays yet.

All seasons have periods of time where the team slumps, it could just be that it’s happening at the beginning. When people say “it’s early”, they don’t mean “it’s early and wins and losses don’t count”, they mean it’s too early to know if this is indicative of how the team will play for the next 5 months.

Another Steve
Another Steve
April 23, 2013 7:56 am

Well said, Mike V.

April 23, 2013 8:30 am

Blasphemy, so we’re are being critical because the Jays aren’t getting underserved criticism. Argh. Toronto Media at its finest.

Blue Jays Devotee
Blue Jays Devotee
April 23, 2013 9:10 am

TSM, agree 100% with the others. The Jays are 8-12, big deal in a 162 game season. Even with baseball being more or less an individual sport, it takes times with all the personnel changes to mesh, and factor in the injuries, some short term, and some, like Reyes, longer and hugely significant, have all contributed to the sluggish start.

The media is handling it as they should, and not press the panic button and incite the fans.

You can’t compare this to the Raptors, who had a GM who while not predicting the playoffs this year, did say they had the capability to make it in a weak Eastern Conference. When the Raptors started 4-19 and the playoffs were almost mathematically over, it was justified for the press to be all over Colangelo/Casey, and they were, even to the point where Colangelo came out of his bunker to spin on why their record was that bad i.e. refs blowing games, tons of road games including a West coast trip, blowing leads in the 4th quarter and last two minutes.

C’mon TSM, it is so not an issue now for the Jays. Just chill out and once they get things going this start will be a distant memory. Additionally, with the extra wild card now, they have even more of a chance to make the playoffs, so even another reason for the media not to panic.

Are they playing well? Of course not, but they will soon, and once they do, the pitching/hitting/fielding is contagious, and it will all come together.

mike (in boston)
mike (in boston)
April 23, 2013 9:45 am

Leafs fans …

On May 1 2012, after spending a huge amount of money in the off-season, the LA Angels were 9-15. On October 1st they were 89-71.

I suspect the media are not “going easy” but are instead paying attention to basic facts about the sport of baseball.

April 23, 2013 1:18 pm

ummmm… the Angels didn’t make the playoffs last season..

April 23, 2013 1:22 pm

I can’t wait until the realization that the Jays will not be contending for a playoff spot sinks in – that’s when there will a huge drop off in attendance and interest in the team.

Of course, the fan590 will still pimp them but only their clueless devoted fans will follow them. This should happen sometime in July.

Nan Young Lee
Nan Young Lee
April 23, 2013 1:26 pm

Blue Jays fans are smart enough to come to correct conclusions on their own. They can marshal large amounts of evidence, define the terms of an argument and use myriad patterns of reasoning to…….oh wait…..–mlb.html

April 23, 2013 4:39 pm

Totally disagree with the premise of the post. I think the coverage has been great on all formats and all stations, TV and radio.

When they play well, it’s noted. When they don’t, it’s noted. Rational people realize there are 141 games left, and both the Tigers and Giants were under .500 teams at one point after May 15th.

Sorry, there’s no meat on this bone.

It’s people screaming up and down about trading guys and firing Gibbons and restructuring the batting order that look foolish, not the people suggesting “relax, it’s early”. Actually, the best personalites and the people who I like listening to talk baseball like Zaun, and Blair, and Brady, and Hayhurst are suggesting “they’re not playing well, and it’s ok to be frustrated, BUT it’s early”.

April 23, 2013 7:04 pm

Well Julian took most of what i was going to say. The Tigers and Giants point is the most important regarding it being early. Goes that mean we should sit on our hands? No. But as people have pointed out it is a long season. So what exactly would tsm prefer? That the jays kept the prospects and given us another “maybe next year”. They took a risk and spent. At the very least it deserves us giving them SOME benefit. I will take a team not playing up to potential (but actually having some potential) over the garbage we have have seen at times the last 20 years.

Ami Angelwings
April 24, 2013 12:11 am

@Sean Exactly. The Jays did what most of the media and fans were clamoring at them to do: spend money, get established players, go for it. At the very least fans should give this team this one year. I don’t see what the point of panicking right now is. Should they fire Anthopolous and Gibbons 20 games into the season? Start trading people at their lowest value? We can’t even wait for the end of the year to see if they actually make the playoffs or not? What can be done right now, except wait and see? I really don’t get what panic would do right now. Or being certain that they won’t make the playoffs. We don’t know that they will or won’t yet. We really don’t. We don’t know how this team will perform in a full season, we don’t even know how they will perform in a half season. It’s been 20 games of this “experiment”. We could at least give it one year. If it doesn’t work out, then the off-season is when you can fire people, remake the roster again, etc, if that’s what needs to be done, but right now… with 5 months to go in the season, what’s panicking going to do?

April 24, 2013 10:53 am

At what point in the season do the apologists stop saying “its still early”? In May, June or July?

Blue Jays Devotee
Blue Jays Devotee
April 24, 2013 11:06 am

Roger, you are such a fricken troll and I am so tired of it. You already made your comment, and by posting again, all you are doing is attempting to instigate and be a shit disturber. There was Zero need for you to regurgitate your exact earlier comment, which was already done.

April 24, 2013 11:29 am

Thanks for the personal attack, BJ devotee (fitting handle, wouldn’t you say). Why don’t you try to look and evaluate this team based on reason and not passion? They’re a good team with a lousy manager.

Blue Jays Devotee
Blue Jays Devotee
April 24, 2013 11:31 am

You are welcome Roger, anytime.

April 25, 2013 4:16 am

“No, I don’t think that if the Leafs were the pre-season cup favourites and then started say 3-5-1 that the media would be any much different than the media is now.
Maybe its because you a such a die-hard Leafs fan but I always find you reaching for this narrative.”

Have to agree with this. TSM does seem to throw this out there once a year or so.

April 25, 2013 4:20 am

Totally agree with Ami, Mike (in Boston) and others.

The Jays have played like crap. But, looking at how poorly some guys with great track records are currently performing, they SHOULD get much better.

I mean, I believe they’re 3 1/2 out of the second wildcard at the moment? Even if it was mid September they’d still be ‘in it’. Writing them off now is insane.

If we hit June and they still look like crap… maybe then it’s time to start wondering if this hasn’t worked.

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