Mike Toth Strikes Again….

Mike Toth Strikes Again….

By TSM

I have been consistant in running this here website. Someone in the business says or does something dumb, I will call them on it. It’s an easy thing to redeem oneself though. Write or say something I happen to think is witty, smart or on the mark I will provide accolades for that too.

For the most part and without exception it’s never personal. There does tend to be trends though. There are repeat offenders.

Today, while driving into work I was listening to the Toronto Raptors press conference and I was reminded once again why exactly it was I started this website. The performance of Mike Toth at the press conference was the reminder.

I am not sure how a guy like Toth, who talks sports on 1010 CFRB gets accredited for sports events like today’s. I understand even less why he would want to go.

The Tother, as he’s referred to himself was in rare form today. For some reason he thought it was a good idea to press both Raptors GM Masai Ujiri’s and then Tim Leiweke on the absence of Bryan Colangelo at the press conference. I mean, really, why wasn’t the former GM there??????? Ummmm, maybe because everyone knows that it wouldn’t have been 100% wrong for Colangelo to be there, that this was Ujiri’s day and more importantly the media are looking for any evidence that Colangelo, or his new role are going to be a problem.

Toth also pressed on about a rebranding issue that was mildly interesting but in my opinion not necessarily the form for the question. Someone wrote it right recently when said if the Raptors want to change their perception they should start by winning.

I know many here don’t love Steve Simmons, but I found his question much more “hard hitting” then Toth’s rambling. Simmons asked why come to Toronto where the Raptors have been an 18 year disaster. I get that, it’s a fair question and one worth asking today.

I was happy to know that I wasn’t the only one wondering whether Toth has been hanging with the good mayor of Toronto recently when Greg Brady took him to task on the air following the press conference. Brady said that he knew Toth used to be on the fan because he would change the station when he heard his voice on the air. Ouch.

Toth is the guy, remember who told the world he didn’t read the daily sports pages until he had lunch every day. Which was only relevant to the point he had a morning radio show!

You take a look at Toth’s website and you see this gem:

“But while Howard and I may be part of that “dying breed” of reporters mentioned earlier, we’re not dead yet and you can rest assured that we’ll continue to ask the tough questions for as long as there are people out there who want the answers.”

I don’t know about you, but I had no interest in having him ask that question (it’s toughness is clearly debatable). Also, do we really need to discuss his comparison to Berger who easily could be part of Simmons Sunday column, ‘hey, whatever happened to Howard Berger.

But Toth you will see think’s he’s a funny guy too. Don’t you know that he and his old partner Jamie Campbell we’re equally as funny as Jay Onrait and Dan O’toole???

“Jamie Campbell and I got that a lot during my years at Sportsnet, as we had a similiar off-the-wall style as Onrait and O’Toole. Like Jay and Dan, however, Jamie and I also had a huge fan following”

I will let you discuss that amongst yourselves.

Speaking of Brady, be sure to chip in and contribute to his ride to conquer cancer here

COMMENTS

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    mike (in boston)8 years ago

    thanks for the write up TSM.

    I found his question much more “hard hitting” then Toth’s rambling

    good to have you back.
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    in the interest of starting the discussion, here are a few points:
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    1. Is there another NBA team where the former GM has been fired due to poor performance and retained as president? MLSE chose to keep Bryan, be it for cost-saving reasons or otherwise. That was their choice, and the media has rightly jumped all over it. I’d be curious what Cox and the rest of the “you gotta ask the question?” types think about this.
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    2. A better question would have been addressed to Ujiri on how he plans to work with Bryan. It would have been uncomfortable, but it’s a valid question given that Ujiri must have asked Leiweke about it.
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    3. I am not sure how a guy like Toth, who talks sports on 1010 CFRB gets accredited for sports events like today’s

    I’m not sure if this is meant to be a joke. In my experience members of the sports media often go to cover sporting events. Many widely-read bloggers receive press passes these days, so it’s hardly surprising that a local radio station would send someone. You can question why Toth has a job in sports media, but wondering how he got accredited seems a little obtuse.
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    4. If you were stranded on a deserted island and had to choose to bring one person with you and the only options were Toth or Krystal, who would you choose? Death is not an option.
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    5. I look forward to reading Mike Hogan’s defense of the Tother in the comments.

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    The question seemed legitimate to me. If MLSE and Brady didn’t think it should have been asked then maybe, I don’t know, don’t keep the fired GM around in the organization?

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    To be fair I quite liked Toth as the anchor of Sportsnet News. Never cared for him much on the radio or as a journalist. Him and Sean Mccormick were the best back in the day. It’s been downhill for “Tother” ever since he left the anchor desk.

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    Ironically my friends and I used to complain about how mundane and simplistic Howard Bergers questions were. If you have read any of his books which were actually quite enjoyable on a certain level, you can see that Howie enjoyed cosying up to certain coaches, with Pat Burns being the most obvious one and Pat Quinn a close second.

    As for Mike Toth, agreed that his star has fallen since he was touted as a potential successor to McCown on PrimeTime. His quirkiness worked on a Sports Desk, but not so much on radio.

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    MIB, do you seriously not realize TSM was being sarcastic with asking how he got his credentials?

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    I would like to know what your credentials are for writing about sports media. I have worked in this business for over 15 years and I also heard the press conference and I think Toth’s question about why Colangelo was there was one of the best questions. If you think it was a bad one then you know nothing about journalism. Colangelo is the PRESIDENT of the Raptors. Whenever a GM is introduced the president is always there. The fact the Raptors have kept Colangelo around in that capacity is asinine and I am glad somebody had the balls to ask about it. Of course it makes sense that Colangelo wasn’t there, but that doesn’t mean you don’t ask them about it. That is the problem with the current breed of ‘journalists’. They are all hair and teeth who have their heads so far up the asses of the organizations they are supposed to be covering that nobody asks any proper questions. Plus, from what I heard Leiwieke and Ujiri had no problem answering it. It was clearly the elephant in the room and it gave them an opportunity to address it. And while you and Greg Brady may ridicule Toth for asking the question, every media outlet, the Globe, the Star, CBC.ca etc.. used Ujiri’s quote from Toth’s question. So obviously it was worth asking, since everybody quoted his answer. That is always what used to happen with Howard Berger too. He would ask the majority of the tough questions at the scrums while all the ‘reporters’ would stick their mics in there, sit back and stay silent and then just take all the answers to the questions he asked. Sports journalism would be a lot better off with more Toth’s and Berger’s. And it would also be better off with fewer cowards like you, writing an anonymous website about an industry I question you have much knowledge of.

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    Paul:

    I have no credentials. I don’t believe I have ever claimed to have any other than being a fan. I do have one question for you, how am I a coward?

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    Well said Paul (or Mr. Toth), regardless of who you are what you said I have thought the same thing about a bunch of different topics with TSM. He picks and chooses who he answers to on both Twitter and this site. His obvious bias as far as certain Leagues, print and websites are beyond obvious and therefore any opinion he has tends to go in one ear and out the other.

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    Hey Afaud, you know it’s a free world right? I mean no one is forcing you to come to this website right? Happy to have the eyeballs and all but if you don’t like it, by all means I’m sure there are productive things you could do with your time. I will be okay with that

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    Did I say I didn’t like the website? I used to enjoy the daily ripping of McCown & PTS as well as reading ‘Seen & Heard’. Like Paul I simply thought you harping on twitter and then on here about Toth asking a simple question that was totally legit was extremely immature and seemed like you have a personal beef with Toth. Whatever the case is it reminded me of your CFL rant a few months back about the TV deal and money, no basis for anything you wrote just obvious your hate for Canadian Football.

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    @AFRAUDHATER that is exactly what I am saying. I am not Mr Toth by the way, but I did work with him many years ago when he was at TSN and he was a pleasure to work with, so I do feel the need to defend him a bit. Especially since whoever this is who writes this website does seem to have a personal beef with Toth and a few others and it is blatantly unfair. What did Toth do to you, steal your girlfriend???. The reason I call you a coward is you have free reign to name and rip whoever you want. Mr Toth and others you ridicule are real people with friends and families and co-workers. He was a guy doing his job to the best of his ability. How would you feel if somebody devoted a whole website to how crappy you are at your day job. Probably wouldn’t feel so great, would it?

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    ” I do have one question for you, how am I a coward?”

    I think Mr. Toth is referring to the fact that you don’t put your name to anything you write. Just a guess.

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    @ Chris, that would be a start I think, lol
    @ Paul, I don’t know if you follow TSM on Twitter but it is actually comical, just as you said he has an open canvas to rip on whomever he wants while at the same time cuddle up to other MSM in the City, kinda makes me giggle, which is why he is a decent follow, lol.

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    Fraud:

    It’s kind of funny. You say I hate the cfl. I sent writers to games to cover them for the website. I watch the games when I can. I wrote every year I will try to watch more. The issue with tv is the same thing. The league got a great deal. In my opinion they will never make that money back.

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    Paul:

    I have nothing against Toth as a person. I don’t know him and don’t think I’ve ever met him. I’ve expressed my opinions on his work.

    It’s funny you seem to think that all I do is rip people. That’s hardly the case.

    As for critiquing his work, he’s a sports journalist. All he does is critique others work. He’s a big boy and I’m sure he can take the opinion of a sports blogger.

    I can tell you that every relationship I have with any member of the media is a result of this website and I’d assume if I was the jerk you seem to suggest that wouldn’t be the case

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    Actually, I never suggested you were a jerk. I just explained why an anonymous website that ridicules people for the job they do is a bit cowardly (yes, you praise people too, but you also make fun of a lot of people)

    What do you mean ‘every relationship I have with any member of the media is a result of this website’. You have relationships with members of the media? Like friendships or working relationships? B/C I find it interesting that Toth who is a big target of yours is someone you have never met. So, if he was your friend, would you rip him? Of do you only tear into media people you aren’t friends with?

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    Paul that was my point earlier abt only ripping his “friends”

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    There’s a difference between relationships and friendships. I rip myself more than anyone else I can tell you that. When I “break” a story how do you think I get the information? Mostly from the media themselves who’ve come to trust me and like what I do.

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    @Paul– interesting you rip how TSM is “anonymous” yet, you are “Paul”, which is about as random as it can get. Plus, while I respect the right to defend a former co-worker, you do come at this with a bit of a bias.

    I know that Toth is quirky to the point that he himself readily admitted that he would rather watch an Intercounty game, or an OHL or Tier 2 game than major league sports. I enjoyed him on TV, but felt he did not come across as well on radio.

    As for the question, it is quite obvious why Colangelo was not there. Is it an unfair question? Not so much, but as this was day for the basketball side of the equation, Colangelo does not fit that profile anymore. It has been quite clear that he has no input into basketball decisions. The question was just to insite, and did not consider it to be “tough” at all.

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    Raptors Devotee8 years ago

    I have not been following the sports media the past week, way too busy with my real estate, but I don’t get the big deal on Toth asking the question on why Colangelo was not there. I don’t even know what Leiweke/Ujiri answered, but everybody is missing the point, and that is that Colangelo was likely allowed to stay on in order to find a GM job elsewhere while continuing his employment in a Senior role at MLSE to save face. I believe it is all being done for optics, and that Colangelo will be out of the Raptors organization for good before the next season starts.

    I have already stated that retaining Colangelo in any capacity stinks beyond belief, but I am reluctantly accepting it (like I have a choice) feeling confident that he will be out of the picture soon.

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    mike (in boston)8 years ago

    just listening to some old podcasts and on Monday Tim opened T&S by saying that someone needs to call MLSE out on their BS decision to keep Bryan as president but not have him at the Ujiri presser.

    I wonder if Brady went after Tim as well … somehow i doubt it.

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    mike (in boston)8 years ago

    oops … meant Sid, not Tim.

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    Toth may be a wank, but the question needed to be asked. Why wasn’t the president of the team there for the announcement?

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    Colangelo is the president of the business side of the Raptors………….he has nothing to do with the basketball side of the Raptors anymore so that’s why it made sense that he wasn’t at the news conference

    I didn’t know that Toth has his own website…………..I’m guessing he won’t be asking Brady to contribute to the “Testimonials” section:

    http://miketothmedia.com/