Seen & Heard – Weekend Edition

Seen & Heard – Weekend Edition

by mike in boston [hatemailaccount \ gmail / com]

 

Why are there so few women in sports media in Toronto?

 

We’re hiring at my institution. Among the things we consider in hiring are gender and ethnic diversity. The reason we consider diversity is that women and visible minorities are underrepresented in my field, both relative to the general population and relative to other departments. We feel there is an imbalance there, and that hiring decisions need to be sensitive to that imbalance. So, among qualified candidates, we give special attention to diversity considerations, and these often serve as a “tie-breaker.”

 

In the U.S. this is often referred to as Affirmative Action. Many Americans resent such policies. They resent these policies because they believe that blacks and women are treated as equals in society, and so they see these policies as giving preference to some people at the expense of others. And of course that’s what these policies do. But the reason such policies are needed is because women and visible minorities are not equal. Google “pay equity gap” and you’ll discover that men earn on average 20% more than women for the same work. Google “number of black senators” and you’ll discover that only 4 black people have ever been elected to this post.

 

There is a ton of academic debate on this subject and I don’t want to spend time on that here. What I do want to raise for discussion is the following: is there is a diversity gap in Toronto sports media?

 

None of the hosts on TSN Radio or The Fan are women. None of the hosts are visible minorities. None of the beat reporters for baseball, hockey, or basketball are women. Paul Jones is a visible minority, but as far as I can tell he is the only one employed in a regular role on the radio. There are a few women working in sports for newspapers, but it’s worth noting that none of them appear with any regularity on either sports radio station.

 

Is this a problem? I’m not sure, but it’s striking. ESPN and FOX radio both have women hosts or co-hosts. They also employ several visible minorities. They are objectively diverse. Toronto sports radio are objectively not diverse. In fact, in my entire lifetime of listening to Toronto sports the only regular woman has been Barb DiGiulio. I think it’s fair to say her role was minor, and she was not considered a sports personality, at least not to the same extent as her male counterparts.

 

I know several sports media people read this site. I wonder if they would consider their industry sexist or racist. The facts justify “asking the question.” Why is it so hard for women to break in to Toronto sports radio? Why are there so few black hosts or co-hosts? Of course, it’s possible this is all random and there is nothing to this. But when you look at this trend over time, that is harder to sustain.

 

p.s. – if the consequence of this post is that the awful Rosie DiManno gets a regular radio gig then I’ll put an ice pick through my ear.

 

Giving Thanks

 

First I would like to thank Jonah for running this site and giving me the opportunity to write this column. I have no idea why sports media is a passion of mine, but I’m grateful to have this place as an outlet. If not for this site, we would all be commenting on Dowbiggin columns at the Globe. Consider that for a minute …

 

Second, I would like to thank all my fellow commenters. Like me, you probably comment on a bunch of different blogs and message boards. The quality of discussion we have here is, in my opinion, fantastic. I read every comment on this site and almost everything people say is something worth saying. That’s pretty rare on the internet. So, thanks to all of you for reading and commenting. Make a resolution to comment more in the new year.

 

Low Hanging Fruit

 

  • Brunt is by far the best thing on radio. His reflections on the fact that the Steve Moore assault was 10 years ago were poignant and insightful. It’s sad that Brunt has cashed out. I have not read a single thing he has written since he left the Globe. Nobody here ever links to his writings or talks about his magazine stories. I hope the FAN finds a way to have him on more in the new year.

 

  • Tim&Sid might benefit from spending the time off thinking about what kind of show they want to be. Right now they are stuck between morning zoo and intelligent and irreverent sports talk. I would rather they do the latter, but that’s not my choice to make. I’ll check back in a few months.

 

  • TSN Drive has done a nice job being a viable PTS alternative. My new year’s wishes are: less CFL, fewer hockey insider segments until the playoffs, more general sports issues. At least, consider dedicating the 5pm or 6pm hour to national interest stories. And for the love of God — post full podcasts of TSN Drive all week. You’re wasting your best assets if you don’t.

 

  • Saddest job in Toronto sports media? The award goes to Gregor Chisholm who has to put a positive spin on the Jays’ off-season for bluejays.com. Here are some recent highlights: “Gibbons expects team to learn from disappointing ’13” … “Creative Anthopoulos open to options” … “Rotation depth a good starting point for Blue Jays”

until next time …

mike (in boston)

COMMENTS

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    Simon Dingley 4 years

    Hazel Mae on Sportsnet Connected and David Amber on HNIC are both diverse and in high-profile Toronto based media jobs.

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    Alex 4 years

    I gave up on getting full TSN podcasts. I felt like Don Quixote tilting at windmills trying to ask people at the station why they cant have a consistent policy. I asked the hosts themselves and got no answer.

    I just make sure i listen from 4:00 forward on Mondays or record the show on tunein radio to get the full Arthur show.

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    mario 4 years

    Have to agree Brunt is truly one of that should be doing a lot more..very insightful..maybe we should get some one from Rogers to post more on this site like Bell media dose..

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    mario 4 years

    Sorry that should be post more comments. ..

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    Great blog, as always. Best weekend read going.

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    Reel E 4 years

    Hard to take your question seriously when you take such a gratuitous stab at Rosie DiManno. I’m not her biggest fan but that was way over the line. Are you saying you want a woman in that position provided it’s one you like?

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    @REEL E: Mike (in Boston) can defend himself, but I’ll chime in on the subject of DiManno per se.

    What I have long found annoying about her in relation to sports coverage is how she only jumps in when the bandwagon is in full steam. As soon as a Toronto sports team is front-page material, even sexy, then she tries to position herself as an authority. Otherwise, nothing.

    The problem is that, not having covered the team or sport all along, she is anything but an authority when she does finally jump onboard . . . and really only makes herself look silly with her assumption-filled columns. This is, we can all agree, hardly the correct profile for women in sports journalism.

    Believe me, the resentment towards her by many members of the Toronto sports media, including some of her Toronto Star colleagues, has nothing to do with her being a woman; it has all to do with her trying to reap the benefits of the beat without doing the hard work along the way. She’s largely considered a phony.

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    Reel E 4 years

    You missed my point. You can’t bitch and moan about equality, and then say there’s one exception because I don’t like her.
    I also think you’re comment was “assumption-filled”. Maybe that’s something we can all agree on.

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    Sports media in Canada has always been a “boys club”. For as long as I can remember women have had to be that much better than their male counterparts to gain any kind of grudging respect. It is changing, but ever so slowly. 10% of the students at the College of Sports Media are women, and they can hold their own with the majority of the men they debate with. I would dare say some of the best students I see on a day to day basis are women. Look at the up and coming anchors today, Kate Beirness on TSN, Andrea Perone at TSN Radio, they don’t have to take a back seat to anyone in this country. And when you look at the women in the field, women who have paid their dues, they have earned and deserve respect from their male counterparts. I’ve never met Rosie Dimanno, but I have always considered her to be a “general” columnist. A lot of her work is first rate. Some may not like her, but we are talking about her.

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    Curt 4 years

    I think the point is there are women out there who have a lot to offer in sports journalism, but ironically, a major representative in an unrepresented field for women is Rosie DiManno – a complete idiot.

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    Midtown Mike 4 years

    I would agree with Jim’s point regarding the talent pool of female sportscasters. At the moment however it seems neither the brass at Rogers or Bell seems to be willing to add either to the on air side of the radio operations.

    Jennifer Hedger, Kate Beirness and Evanka Osmak are all great examples of legit sports fans who are also good broadcasters. I find them to be excellent in terms of on air delivery and yeah of course not bad to look at it. But they are good at the job they do for the viewers day in day out.

    One sportscaster whose currently developed a great following with her NBA and Raptors blog http://www.insidethepurpleroom.com is Payal Doshi. If you ask me TSN or Sportsnet would be wise to bring on Payal as a NBA Insider specifically focusing on the Raptors. She brings a different and fresh perspective to the way the Raptors have always been covered in the local Toronto media. TSN Radio could even do a Raptors show with Josh Lewenberg and Payal Doshi would be different and entertaining.

    Anyone ever thought that maybe Sportsnet 590 The Fan should add a female co host to Brady & Walker just to switch things up ?

    Happy Holidays everyone and hope people are okay tonight with the Ice Storm

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    Another Steve 4 years

    I’m just throwing this out there, but doesn’t the fact that the reported ratings always seem to focus on male demographics suggest something about how these stations feel about women in general?

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    Reel E 4 years

    Steve the problem isn’t necessarily the focus on male demographics. It’s more that the audience is actively listening and actively judging the talent against their perceptions of sport. You see it all the time in the comments on this site. People judge. It’s what sports talk is all about. I like Blank, other guy sucks. Why? We think we know more, or maybe just disagree with what we hear. And like it or not, men ( the desired demographic) are much more critical about women. Do you remember The Fabulous Sports Babe? The Fan ran her show for awhile and the audience hated her. I remember hearing people saying she didn’t know what she was talking about, she was gruff, she was arrogant. Whatever. Look she was many things, but she wasn’t stupid. She was held to a higher standard. Midtown Mike, in an otherwise reasonable post, couldn’t help but add that Hedger, Beirness and Osmak were “not bad to look at”. That’s not fair to them. They’re all very good, no matter what they look like. The way we view women in media, not just sports media, won’t change until they’re seen as broadcasters first. We may have come a long way, but there’s a long way still to go.

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    Drumanchor 4 years

    It appears to me that both TSN and Rogers seem to be attempting to provide some gender and ethnic diversity to their anchors. I, specifically, notice it in the names of the broadcasters. Some have long, ethnic names (that they say very quickly) and a few are even are visibly “non-white”.

    The problem is: Their delivery is as white as rice.

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    Nan Young Lee 4 years

    How many years ago did Moses Znaimer produce a CityTv that looked like Toronto?

    When the Leafs were winning at the beginning of the season some of Brian Burke’s fans in the media were saying that the Leafs were basically the team Burke built. Now that the Leafs are taking on water Burke’s name is never mentioned.

    The last two Raptor games on 1050 had the team of Paul Jones and Jack Armstrong doing the play by play. I prefer this duo to Jones and Eric Smith. I like Smith but Armstrong is better. He has a deeper knowledge of the game and is a more appealing personality. Next season, Jones and Armstrong should do the call on both 590 and 1050 with Eric handling the pre-game, halftime, post-game shows and interviews/phone calls.

    Interesting that James Duthie might be doing some NFL work on TSN, when the new deal with the NFL kicks in next season. Will Rogers buy the Bills only to have all their games on TSN? A billion dollars for the team, another billion for the stadium and TSN reaps the Tv ratings rewards? Duthie’s “Canadianizing” of the pregame/postgame shows for the new Toronto franchise might help drive ratings higher especially in the Western CFL markets. Any games affecting the Bills playoff chances might also get highter numbers now. Maybe if Rogers/Bon Jovi does get an NFL team Pelley will trade some NHL national games for some NFL games. Is this part of the reason Bell got exclusive rights to the NFL?

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    Wefewee 4 years

    Great comments for a great and topical post! – I enjoyed them all but agree that one was too harsh about Rosie. She’s not my cup of tea but, neither are some of the other personalities that are on the radio (and TV) now.
    I really enjoy this blog and look forward to Jonah firing things up in the New Year. It will be a welcome return after some disappointing stretches of no posts.
    Great job by Mike, too!
    Hope everyone has a great Holiday!
    Our Christmas came early here in Pickering last night when the power finally came back on!

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    Jamally 4 years

    I’m making the horrible mistake of watching the horribly unfunny Gerry Dee host Sportsnet 360’s clip show.

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    Daniel 4 years

    Hilarious seeing Keith Law, Jonah Keri, and other excellent baseball types totally shit on Steve Simmons on twitter for his terrible HOF ballot.

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    wow … you’re not kidding Daniel. Those are some of the weakest arguments I’ve ever seen. It’s pretty funny to watch him wave the white flag by saying you can’t have a reasonable discussion on twitter. I agree with him about that, but you can’t play that card once you’ve started a discussion and then had your ass handed to you.

    I agree with whoever said that Simmons should stop voting.
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    I actually enjoy Simmons on the radio but from what I’ve just read, he’s a total Cox on Twitter.

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    thanks for posting Jim Van Horne, and for confirming the gender bias that exists in Toronto sports media jobs. It’s an interesting question to ponder why it is that this industry has been so resistant to progress when so many others have managed to get over that hump. I mean, the “women in the locker room” controversy was what … 25 years ago? I wonder how those 10% of women at CSM hope to break in when so many have failed to do so over the last few decades. I wish them well.
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    On Rosie – I think the “love her or hate her, we’re all talking about her” mentality is a holdover from the pre-internet days. I suppose it’s conceivable that people bought newspapers to be outraged by lousy writing. But with so much content at our fingertips, bad writing just doesn’t get read today. No one links her articles here, or on any other blogs I read. So whatever buzz her editor thinks she is generating, it is not translating to clicks. “DiManno” in a headline just means “Don’t Bother.”

    Last thought: why does her editor allow her to write sports stories? He or she is ultimately the person to blame.

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    Sounds like Ray Ferraro has signed a 10 year contract extension with TSN……………of all the guys at TSN I thought he might be the most likely to go…………….he has worked at Sportsnet in the past and he is one of the best hockey colour commentators in the world……………..now the only games we will hear him do are world juniors/championships and maybe some regional NHL games

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    alex 4 years

    I think I heard Keri on with Naylor and Simmons the other day and it came off as an awkward segment.

    Was 590 really CBS Sports radio the entire day? I tuned in at 4 PM to hear who was filling in for Bobcast and saw that they apparently piped in CBS all afternoon through midnight.

    Did they really just punt going against the WJ or was it merely just giving people off for the holiday?

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    FRIEDGE 4 years

    Has the writer of this blog turned on his TV lately?

    Gurdeep Ahluwalia, Kate Beirness, Jock Climie, Katherine Dolan, Duane Forde, Sheri Forde, Jermain Franklin, Jennifer Hedger, Nabil Karim, Steve Kouleas, Farhan Lalji, John Lu, Linda Moore, Sara Orlesky, Cabral Richards, Natasha Staniszewski, Milt Stegall, Tracy Wilson, Caroline Cameron, Hazel Mae, Martine Gaillard, Evanka Osmak, David Amber, Brenda Irving, Kevin Weekes, Andi Petrillo, Cassie Campbell-Pascall, Jackie Redmond, Laura Diakun, Sophia Jurksztowicz, Sara Nicole Davis, Kayla Harris, Nathan Downer, Sherman Hamilton…does Sixeiro count? Am I missing anyone? Do Jewish people count?

    Why would Paul Jones give up a play-by-play gig to do anything else?

    About 10 years ago, there were more women on The Score than men. Why would anyone want to be a beat reporter? That’s the worst job…if I was anyone (white male/female, non-white male/female) why would I want to do that instead of go into TV?

    There is plenty of opportunity for women/minorities forever. Where is your best security? TV, radio or print? Does any thought go into this?

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    FRIEDGE 4 years

    Bad edit:

    Meant “There is more opportunity for women/minorities than ever.”

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    Ray Ferraro ‏@rayferrarotsn 13h
    Been great Christmas, #2014WJC with family here–happy,proud to announce I’ll be staying at #TSN for the next 10 years – deal just completed

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    Sam 4 years

    Mike S – if you want more Ferraro I recommend the segments he does on 1050 toronto (you’re probably already aware)

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    Thanks Sam………….yes I usually try to catch Ferraro when he is on 1050 just after 1 PM on most weekdays

    For anyone who likes Ferraro I recommend these radio segments………….normally they are over 20 minutes long and filled with good insight and lots of laughs

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    KK. 4 years

    I kind of missed the “Year in Review” show on 590 this week.

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    Anyone listening to the Friday PTS Roundtable right now? I had to turn it off – Michael Grange has perhaps the worst voice in the history of Toronto sports radio. I know people say he has good things to say. He may very well know his stuff, but with a voice like that, he truly should not be on the radio. As odd as it seems, I think his broadcasting skills have actually regressed since this Rogers push to promote him on radio and television. The guy makes Ray Romano sound like James Earl Jones.

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    Another Steve 4 years

    Totally disagree with your opinion on Grange, GCM.

    I think his voice is good on radio. I tend to distrust people who are too smooth. But that’s just my opinion, of course.

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    If Keith Law and Jonah Keri think Simmons should have his HOF vote taken away hopefully they feel the same way about Jeff Blair…………Blair is the guy who said he never voted for Gary Carter because he didn’t like him………….and he also said he wouldn’t have voted for Larry Walker if he weren’t Canadian

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    Alex 4 years

    Warning

    Sid in for Bob on PTS next week.

    I hope Naylor is on all week to take advantage.

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    mike (in boston) 4 years

    no new Seen & Heard this weekend since not much is going on. But, there is a report that Hayhurst is leaving for greener pastures. If true, that is a real shame, and is a significant loss for toronto baseball fans.

    http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2013/12/28/5250838/dirk-hayhurst-leaving-sportsnet

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    Mike (in Boston): If the Hayhurst report is true, it’s a loss for those of us who follow and appreciate sports media in Toronto. He stood out – admittedly for the wrong reasons on occasion but so be it.

    He was not run-of-the-mill . . . and certainly was not an apologist for the employer. Did I always agree with him? No. But he rarely failed to deliver a different take, a different perspective, on a sport and a franchise for which the cliche has been too much of the norm among local reporters and commentators. He will be missed.

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    Matt 4 years

    Has anyone heard if any heads of Bell will get the axe. Since Pelley was able to go from CTV to Rogers and basically cripple TSN.

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    Daniel 4 years

    @MIB – totally agree with you on Hayhurst. I thought he was a breath of fresh air. Zaun is entertaining, but a total meathead, and I don’t really take his analysis that seriously (other than nuts and bolts, on the field stuff. He’s great at that. But his take on off the field stuff is really eye roll worthy).

    I liked the Baseball Central radio show a lot too. Definite shame if he goes.

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    Nan Young Lee 4 years

    Let’s see Keith Law and Jonah Keri do this:

    steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve 4h
    I can die happy: Played my first and last outdoor game at The Big House. Awesome experience. Scored twice. Life doesn’t get better than this

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    daver 4 years

    Nan, what do two baseball guys care about playing hockey?

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    Daniel 4 years

    “Let’s see Keith Law and Jonah Keri do this:
    steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve 4h
    I can die happy: Played my first and last outdoor game at The Big House. Awesome experience. Scored twice. Life doesn’t get better than this”

    I don’t get it…

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    Girl behind the scenes 4 years

    I am baffled by the comment that there are not enough women on air. There are plenty at both TSN and Sportsnet. Basically a third of the on air personalities are women. As Jim Van Horne pointed out 10% of their students are women, so based on that, the number of women on air is disproportionally higher than the number of women who are studying sports journalism. I am a female who has worked behind the scenes in sports television for almost 10 years and I can tell your there are VERY few women behind the scenes, but women who are interested in on-air have a much better chance of getting a job than their male counterparts provided they are good-looking. What is more accurate is there are very few average-looking female sports broadcasters, where I can think of plenty of average looking men. I would love to see more women on radio and in print, because in that area there is still quite a bit of sexism. The reason women get the television jobs is because they are pretty to look at combined with their knowledge or sports and broadcasting skills.

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    Bobby G 4 years

    What is with the utter contempt TSN shows for its radio listeners by simulcasting the TV play-by-play of its WJHC coverage? There is no worse radio than a TV simulcast … Even TSN appeared to get that when it gave doing it for Argos broadcasts. But here we are again putting amateur-level, third-rank content on the radio station. Want to be taken seriously by listeners? Show them some respect.

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    @BOBBY G: It is too bad. I always thought Dan Dunlevy did a very good job calling the WJHC games on radio.

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    alex 4 years

    “There is no worse radio than a TV simulcast ”

    except vin scully on dodgers games

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    kyle 4 years

    @Bobby G – completely agree; TSN does the same with some Raptors games, too. very bush league, and disappointing.

    @Alex – Scully is different, in two ways (1) he’s a radio guy, basically doing a radio call on TV; and (2) he’s Vin Scully.

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    thanks for the insider infer GIRL BEHIND THE SCENES.
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    My post was specifically about the radio/print side since, as you note, the TV side is skewed by the fact that many women are there primarily for T&A. Neither the audience nor their male counterparts regard *most* of them as having credibility as sports reporters. There are some exceptions I’m sure, but it’s striking that there are no women hosts on either radio station … you know, the medium where looks are not important but opinions are.
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    The same superficial inclusion of women is true of *most* sideline reporters. In Boston, NESN’s Red Sox games includes a woman whose main function is to try out the local food in every ballpark, in addition to other sideline duties. Most of the time she wears a skirt or tight fitting clothing. Who am I to say that she is not a member of the sports media? That said, it’s clear that whatever her job is, it’s very different from what Jamie Campbell does on the Jays broadcasts.
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    My complaint is that, for whatever reason, TSN and SN have decided that there is no role for women in positions of prominence on their radio stations and affiliated websites. That means women are radically underrepresented in positions where their brains rather than their bodies are of central importance. It’s hard to interpret this as anything other than a local but industry-wide gender bias.

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    Bob 4 years

    There is no way I want to see Jamie Campbell in a skirt or tight fitting clothing. The problem is that most men in the industry (Talk Show Hosts) have no clue. Why would women want to lower their standards? The few men that really understand competition are usually dissed by commentators on this site. You folks seem to be more interested in style and delivery than content. re: Mike Hogan and Bob Ryan who are a couple of men who actually have a clue. I would put Kate Beirness on par with any host in the Toronto market.

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    Nan Young Lee 4 years

    Steve Simmons understands the importance of reason, but appears to agree with Max Weber troubling view that rationalism can also be called ‘disenchantment’. His tweet about the media game in Detroit brought a hint of Huizinga’s “Homo Ludens” to the twitter masses.

    Haha. More Homo Ludens at TSN:
    https://twitter.com/FarhanLaljiTSN/status/418526677841772544/photo/1
    Philosophy and snow angels from Aaron Ward (or maybe he was just drunk).

    Meanwhile the geniuses at Sportnet, upon hearing about TSN’s championing of “Homo Ludens” quickly put out press release pledging their support for the Gay Pride Parade.

    Andrew Walker gets better and better. What a great hire by 590, and another miss for 1050 (did he work with Mike Richards in Calgary?). It’s nice to hear someone on 590 who actually knows about and likes hockey, because you know Blair and Bob don’t really care for it. Brady knows more about more sports than anyone in TO, but unlike Walker I always think he would rather watch or talk about the NFL or BPL before hockey, even though, like Walker, he seems to have an effortless recall for NHL games, draft picks and rosters (present and past).
    Walker is only slightly behind Jeff O’Neill as the 2013 TO sports media MVP.

    And then there’s Brunt, who apparently manages to say something interesting only when someone breaks his neck.

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    Another Steve 4 years

    One thing’s for certain – Brunt says things that are more interesting than what you write. And, I might add, he can even do so without seeming like a first-year philosophy student who’s using big words in a ridiculous attempt to sound impressive.

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    Mike V 4 years

    Homo Lundens? Now I know Nan is just trolling. That tweet was nothing more than a bad sportswriter at a terrible newspaper bragging about the beneifts his position affords him.

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    Bobby G 4 years

    There are no terrible newspapers Toronto. If you want terrible, you have to go to one-newspaper towns like Orlando where they are scared of breaking controversial stories because they’ll lose access. You might not read the paper or listen to the radio station or watch the sports network but that doesn’t make them terrible. Get some perspective … And it’s Homo Ludens.

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    Bobby G 4 years

    @GreyCountyMike: Dunleavy did do a good job but anything is better than a simulcast of TV on the radio. It’s unlistenable and TSN should be ashamed of their bush league treatment of their listeners.
    @Alex: Vin Scully is a genre of his own. He’s been doing the exact same thing since 1950 or so and some people swear by him. But even on TV, NBC had him work with a partner.

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    Nan Young Lee 4 years

    Just listened to the 5pm PTS podcast. I enjoyed Shannon talking about the Winter Classics and the NHL office. But when he was talking about Phaneuf, he said that it was an ‘urban legend’ that Dion wasn’t liked in the locker room. Less than a minute later he said Phaneuf had been given advice on how to be a better teammate.

    The official Maple Leafs twitter account should include some tweets and pics concerning Leaf history, such as those found on Dodgers History:

    https://twitter.com/Dodgers_History

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    Alex 4 years

    I always say Shannon is worth listening to when discussing the TV business or logistics of broadcasting. The rest, not so much.

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    @Alex True enough. With his extensive history on the business side of broadcasting, Shannon does offer some perspective and insight there. If he kept it to blogs and the occasional broadcast clip, he’d be tolerable.

    But he is ridiculously bad behind the mic in the studio as a host, panel member or long interviewee. He constantly butts in when others are speaking, blindly defends his former employers (as if he is looking for his next job) and, above all, has a voice that rivals Michael Grange for the worst in Canadian broadcasting.

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    Daniel 4 years

    Yeah, Shannon is fine talking about NHL broadcasting etc.

    But when it comes to say, baseball, his knowledge and commentary is so terrible. I genuinely think 90% of the commenters on here could offer more value in their thoughts or comments on the team than him. Ridiculous that he’s being paid to talk to hundreds of thousands about topics that he (sometimes) has next to no knowledge about.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if he kept quiet in segments where he doesn’t know much about the sports, but he actually interrupts guys who have opinions I’m interested in (Brunt, Blair, Friedman) to say total nonsense. Cox is the same way.

    Funnily enough, I actually think Jeff Blair has been excellent on the roundtables, far better than as solo host of his own show. I like his show, but I wouldn’t hate it if instead he replaced Cox/Shannon as PTS cohost when Brunt isn’t there.

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    mikey 4 years

    There are a lot more female sports broadcasters now. JVH, you said there were only 10% enrolled and they held their own.. (by the way you went completely over the top with your comments in support of women in broadcasting. I appreciate your support to women but your comments leaned quite heavily as kissing up) Considering 10% enroll the ratio of men to women in sports broadcasting is fairly strong on the female side. I think most of the females are great. They do hold their own and a few of them are great eye candy which, let’s face it, is important. Sorry, it’s true.