Seen & Heard – Weekend Edition

Seen & Heard – Weekend Edition

 

by mike in boston @mikeinboston [hatemailaccount /a/t/ gmail /com]

 

The Curious Case of Mike Toth

 

The hiring of George Strombolopoulous as the face of HNIC  prompted several opinion pieces from a range of hockey outlets, blogs, and media critics. This site hosted a media roundtable on the subject last week. One piece you might have missed was entitled “Death of a Sportscaster” and it was written by ex-Rogers employee Mike Toth. In it, Toth argues that the Strombo hiring is indicative of a lack of respect in Canadian media for the job of the sportscaster, and sends a terrible message to all sports broadcasters struggling to work their way up the ladder.

 

Mr. Toth last made news around these parts back in summer of 2013 when TSM/Jonah criticized Toth for making a spectacle of himself at the Masai Ujiri press conference. Some of you might be new readers to the site or too young to remember the case history involving Mike Toth, so let’s take a walk back in time to 2008. At that time Toth was co-hosting a mid-morning show with Mike Hogan. Toth replaced Don Landry, who had moved to the morning show. Toth moved to radio after a stint hosting a hockey show on Rogers Sportsnet. It’s hard to quantify the success of his time on television since Toth was voted the most annoying TV announcer in a Star poll.  Nevertheless, Toth’s star was shining mostly brightly at this time. In fact, he was asked to host PTS during a McCown absence, and was tabbed by some to be McCown’s eventual successor on the FAN’s flagship radio show.

 

But things eventually took a turn for the worse. In Fall of 2009 Toth was let go from the FAN. He later caught on at Newstalk 1010, and has remained there in spite of TSN Radio’s launch. One might have thought someone with his track record would have been a natural hire for TSN, since they  scooped up established sports radio people like Bryan Hayes and Mike Hogan, and even Scott Ferguson. I have not listened to 1010  in about 15 years so I don’t know what his role involves, but he lists himself as their Sports Director.

 

Now, there are conflicting stories about what exactly went wrong towards the end at Rogers/SN/FAN590. In his piece, Toth says that he has been “black-balled” by Canadian network television for “being too opinionated” and “hurting our brand.” I contacted Mr. Toth by email to see if he would be interviewed for this site. He more or less politely declined though he did add that he has “never been fired from any broadcast job in [my] life.” [note – I am using this quote since Mr. Toth also repeated it in the comments section on his blog.] So what happened to precipitate Toth’s exit from Rogers?

 

One thing is clear: Toth’s personality was an issue. The Star poll confirms that many people found him grating. His radio presence was very bombastic and brash. But of course many people in radio share those traits. So, this is not a very compelling explanation for Toth’s eventual departure. The radio show was not getting great ratings, but that had been a problem for that time slot for a very long time.

 

As Toth’s blog attests, he sees himself as a straight-shooter and believes that his propensity to ‘tell it like it is’ is too much for some people to handle.  McCown has made a career out of being a contrarian, so it is possible to play this role into career success. Admittedly there is a difference though: Bob is a faux-contrarian, and adopts positions just to get a rise out of people. Indeed, the FAN markets the show with the tagline “whatever you’re for, he’s against it!” (As bad as this ad is, it is an improvement over the promos indicating that Bob kicks his dog.) For better or for worse, Toth is someone who says what he actually thinks, and so evades the charge of being disingenuous like McCown.

 

Toth’s approach has some commonalities with Don Cherry’s but that’s not a perfect comparison either. Cherry is a borderline racist whose opinions were set in stone 40 years ago. So when he ‘tells it like it is’, he’s mostly just ranting dogmatically. Toth actually tries to defend his positions. If you look at this piece, his main complaint is that Strombo is underserving of such a high profile job because he lacks hockey credentials. That’s a perfectly fine position to hold, and I imagine many people share it. But instead of making the argument that Strombo will be a bad hockey analyst, Toth complains that Strombo hasn’t paid his dues.

 

You can see why Toth is attracted to his argument. Toth is a guy who has paid his dues, but has been drummed out of the business nonetheless. In his mind, it’s because he tells it like it is. He’s too dangerous! But once you look at the evidence a different picture emerges, one that has more to do with telling it like it’s not. Toth was let go by the FAN shortly after claiming:

 

“This is going to sound harsh, but be that as it may, here it comes: There are no female sportscasters that I can think of that have more knowledge than their male counterparts.”

 

This was obviously an off-the-cuff remark and he was unprepared to defend it. But it gives some insight into the mind of a guy who sees himself as telling it like it is without having really thought the point through. (Note: we have been having an ongoing discussion on this site about the lack of women in sports media.)

 

There were other serious lapses in judgment. In one of his call-in shows he encouraged callers to rip on Mike Wilner. I’m someone who thinks Wilner lowers the bar in talk radio and is a disservice to Jays fans, but this clearly violates professional ethics. (You can read Wilner’s whiny yet somehow condescending reply here). Beyond these two incidents, many will remember Toth asking a guest for free tickets on the air. Lastly, I’m told he has reputation for attacking people on Twitter. I’ve only been following him for a few weeks, so I can’t comment on previous incidents, but following the publication of his blog on Strombo he spent a lot of time making sarcastic remarks @strombo.

 

What do we get when put this all together? It paints a picture of a guy who is just not fully in touch with reality. He sees himself as a straight-shooter while most others see him as a clueless jerk. That’s when the right parallel became clear to me. Damian Goddard was “let go” from Sportsnet back in 2011 after tweeting out his support for “REAL” marriage and opposing  marriage equality. If you visit his website you’ll see that he regards himself as having been drummed out of the business for speaking his mind. Sound familiar?

 

Both men see themselves as victims of an agenda designed to silence their outspoken ways. But Goddard is not guilty of being outspoken. He is guilty of believing that his religious opinion of others should shape social policy and determine civil and political rights. He’s wrong about that. The agenda that is opposing him is political equality. It’s worth remembering that the people who opposed inter-racial marriage also saw themselves as fighting against PC bullshit. They were wrong too. Damian Goddard took his firing to the Human Rights Commission on grounds of religious freedom and lost.

 

Very few people ever fully leave the Canadian sports media scene. I’ve commented before that there are next to no examples of people who flunk out of the business once they have a job. So, it seems likely that Mr. Toth will be directing the sports department over at 1010 for many years to come. I’ve never met Mike Toth so I can’t pretend to know who the real Mike Toth is, but his public persona is fully formed at this time. I’m sure his former colleagues at TSN, Sportsnet, and the FAN have a much better sense of whether there is more there than what we the audience see and hear.

 

In a piece by Cathal Kelly he cites a quote from Goddard: “It’s such a fine line between stupid and clever.” I think we can all agree with this statement. There is something brave about trying to walk that line, but there is also a risk that one will end up walking on the stupid side without knowing it.

 

(note: I contacted Mr. Toth several times for comment but did not receive any reply.)

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thanks for reading,

 

until next time …

mike (in boston)

COMMENTS

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    Toth is grating, and certainly not everybody’s cup of tea, but he never simply regurgitated the “same old, same old” view that is so much the norm in Toronto sports media. I remember when, on Sportsnet, he took a little jab at figure skaters … and his co-host Jamie Campbell almost started to cry because Toth had somehow crossed some BS line that says no Canadian media person can dare criticize an Olympic athlete. I tell you one thing, I’d take Toth any day over the Blue Jays’ apologists who are mostly filling the Rogers programming slate these days.

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    Matt 4 years

    He was never very good on The Fan. He seemed to think talking loudly made the things you say correct, you can’t bs people forever. That said he is ok on CFRB when I hear him cause he has had to tighten things up.

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    Another Steve 4 years

    I wonder if his exit from 590 had something to do with that embarrassing April 1st stunt he tried a few years ago.

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    KBM 4 years

    Just to change the topic for a moment, did anyone else hear Butch Carter absolutely embarrassed himself on PTS?
    Cringe inducing….

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    Bobby Digital 4 years

    Mike Toth’s biggest obstacle is Mike Toth. He can’t stay out of his own way. While he can be entertaining, he has never learned one of the most valuable skills that anyone who spouts opinions needs to learn, tact.

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    KBM 4 years

    Also, congratulations to TSM on this posting. Another example of fair and thoughtful content that regularly appears in this space.

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    sam in oshawa 4 years

    Toth- would like to get a peek at his medicine cabinet oofaahh…

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    Drumanchor 4 years

    He’s a dick who believes that he is entitled to be more relevant.

    (The fact that he is employed at CFRB, once the jewel of Toronto radio, must have Gordon Sinclair spinning in his grave.)

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    dom 4 years

    Great piece Mike. I’m a regular reader but felt compelled to post for the first time just to say thank you. Always wondered what happened to Toth. Figured he was just bad at his job and got let go. Have you ever heard what became of Don Landry? He seems to be one of the few examples that flunked out of the business and disappeared. I know he wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea but I enjoyed him on the morning show.

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    Peace 4 years

    I’ll never forget Toth singing a love song to Jennifer Capriati on the air.

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    Andrew 4 years

    Mike Toth reminds me of Colin Cowherd. Which reminds me to turn the dial.

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    Steverino F 4 years

    This is the best analysis of the what Mike has done to his career. And the comparison to Goddard is appropriate because the two of them became their own worst enemies. No one else is responsible for what happened to them. It was their actions, and their actions alone that caused each of their downfalls. Damian blames it on a tweet, but that wasn’t it. Mike blames on it being blackballed for telling it like it is, but that wasn’t it. It’s because they lost sight of what a sports broadcaster is primarily supposed to be in the first place – an entertaining friend to all.

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    Matt 4 years

    @Dom Don Landry is still around he did some curling work for Sportsnet this year and writes on Yahoo! I’ve heard him fill in on CFRB though not in the past few months. I enjoyed Don’s work and hope nothing but the best for him.

    https://twitter.com/donlandrymedia

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    Jonathan Giggs 4 years

    I wasn’t aware of some of these “controversies” but I was directed to Mike Toth’s blog where he writes well, under his own name. I didn’t care for him at either TSN or Sportsnet but he had company.

    I really enjoyed the Toronto Star’s special feature on the Brampton Beast, that included copy, photographs and videos. Something different and unique than what is provided in the sports pages? Can Hockey Night in canada or sports radio stations provide content of this quality? They don’t even try.

    http://www.thestar.com/projects/bramptonbeast.html

    Best part? Telling the story of the married equipment manager and therapist: There are admittedly some awkward moments, such as when they both worked for Amarillo (Texas) — a team with a sleeper bus for 12 — and the couple shared a larger bed with the coach and the play-by-play man.

    We love our hockey!

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    Ken B 4 years

    I thought Mr. Toth was fine on the desk at TSN many moons ago. However, I believe he lost his way when he moved to Sportsnet and somehow thought he needed to stand out. My recollections are mostly of the childish facial expressions and silly nodding when interacting with his co-host Sean (the Dude guy). It was enough to turn one’s stomach (and channel). I haven’t listened to him since he moved to CFRB. As was stated here, there’s an example of a once-dominant station that was mismanaged into irrelevance.

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    Mullah_Kintyre 4 years

    I don’t listen to 1010 of my own volition, but occasionally hear it on someone else’s radio weekday mornings. Toth just reads a short sportscast after the news which thankfully leaves little room to insert his grating personality. Back when he had more air time on sports radio, at best I found him tolerable when he wasn’t trying too hard, but mostly he was just weird and off in his own little world, or sometimes like a fourth rate comedian who’s not funny to anyone except maybe himself.

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    Mike Toth 4 years

    Mike in Boston.

    Enjoyed your article, although as I said to you via email I don’t like the fact that you don’t use your full/real name (or a photo) for your columns. I feel if you express an opinion, you should have the guts to back it up by actually putting an identity with it. Be that as it may, I thought you (and your readers) make some very interesting points.

    One of the biggest mistakes I’ve made during my career is commenting on broadcast issues (females in sportscasting, for example) and other broadcasters.

    I have to admit that, even as a kid, I was much more interested in the broadcasters than the actual games themselves, as I have a real passion for the “inner-workings” of the business. In fact, I probably should have been one of those media critic-types like William Houston or Chris Zelkovich, as I loved reading the columns they used to write for The Globe and The Star.

    Also, unlike most broadcasters I’ve come across, I don’t mind being criticized. You should always listen to your critics, as even if they sometimes get their facts a little muddled up, you can often learn from what they have to say.

    But while most broadcasters love to dish it out to athletes, they’re incredibly sensitive when somebody disagrees with them or their approach. I LOVE it when athletes trash talk each other (something that doesn’t happen enough) and I don’t see anything wrong with a broadcaster commenting on broadcasting issues either.

    Unfortunately, however, the ego’s of most broadcasters are extremely fragile.

    Me?

    Maybe it’s because I’m used to being ripped after performing as a lousy junior and college hockey goalie back in Alberta who often had to read about how bad I was in the local papers. But I’ve never had a problem with people disagreeing with me or critiquing my ability.

    The bottom line?

    We’re in a public profession and if we don’t like negative publicity, we can always get a job writing anonymously for a sports media website….and yes, that’s what you call a “parting shot”, Mike!

    Take care, and continued success with the site.

    Mike Toth
    CFRB Newstalk 1010

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    Lee (Oakville) 4 years

    Mike,

    Thanks for responding. I may not have always agreed with your opinions or performances, but your honesty and courage is refreshing.

    Lee

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    Antonio 4 years

    The only thing Goddard and Toth have in common is that they have both been blackballed. Goddard’s personality was nothing like Toth’s. The former’s was actually kind of dull and to the script.

    The reason Goddard can’t find work again is because of an innocuous tweet (just one, actually) in which he supported a hockey agent who had spoken out against that crazy ass Sean Avery. The agent was getting ripped on Twitter and Goddard came to this defense.

    We can all agree Goddard’s tweet was not supportive of gay “marriage” but it was in no means homophobic or a valid reason for firing and subsequent blackballing.

    BTW, I think both guys should be working for the big networks. They would be a refreshing change from the clones like Strombo.

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    Steve in Waterloo 4 years

    Thanks for the article.
    I was thinking of Toth the other day as I was watching the guys on Sportsnet all dressed up, ties pulled tight and all.

    I may be wrong, but there was a rumour a few years ago that Sportsnet decided to go casual and informal to reach a different demographic, and that Mike Toth REALLY disagreed with such an approach…which may have been the beginning of his demise at Sportsnet.

    I guess you were right Mike – the suits are back on every talking head.

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    sam in oshawa 4 years

    Toth- went up a notch in my opinion, responded like a man good on ya…

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    Ken 4 years

    I agree with Toth, if you are going to write a column, and critic people, at least you your real name.

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    Another Steve 4 years

    “I agree with Toth, if you are going to write a column, and critic [sic] people, at least you [sic] your real name,” wrote the guy named “Ken.” 🙂

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    Drumanchor 4 years

    Kudos to Mr. Toth for taking the high road when replying. Most, if any, would not bother to offer their thoughts let alone in a mature, adult manner.

    That being said, what is wrong with Mike in Boston NOT saying who he is in his own blog. It is his right to post as he does as it is the reader’s right not to bother to read what he says (let alone agree with him). It is not like he is a Conservative party troll posting their trash on the Toronto Sun site just for the sake of blasting everything Liberal government. In my opinion, he provides a thoughtful analysis of what he believes is the state of sports media. Face it, we are all anonymous when we reply online and all wish to keep it that way. Why not Mike?

    As for Mr. Toth, being an entertainer in the public eye comes with some slings and arrows. Hard to fathom that one can develop such a thick skin so that nothing penetrates. However…

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    As I wrote at the outset, Toth always tries to be honest, I believe. Judging from his reply here, he hasn’t lost that genuine trait. Pretty easy to understand why he didn’t cut it at Rogers, where the company line is all that apparently matters these days. Just look at what has happened to Stephen Brunt: Once one of this nation’s best sports journalists, Brunt is now essentially a corporate shill … brought off the shelf to boost whatever Rogers “message” is being floated at the moment, ie. NFL in Toronto, displacement of the Argos, Paul Beeston as guru, etc., etc.

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    Ken 4 years

    @Another Steve Thank you kindly for pointing out my spelling mistakes. I hope to be as good as you one day……cheers

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    Another Steve 4 years

    It wasn’t really the point, but you’re welcome. (Words do have meanings, after all. Otherwise they are just the same as vomit on the page.)

    But your passive-aggressive tone does remind me a lot of the letter from Toth.

    Anyway, There’s a huge difference between people who volunteer to make comments on a media-criticism website and people who make their living in the media. I assume that MiB is not getting paid for this, right?

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    Lee (Oakville) 4 years

    In my mind, the issue of anonymity is related to the issue of whether the blogger is taking personal shots at the subject and/or is repeating rumours or innuendo. In this case, it is clear, in my opinion, that MIB did just that. I don’t expect MIB to identify himself, but to portray another individual negatively behind the cloak of secrecy is somewhat disconcerting. However, it is also fully understandable given the tone and lack of civility across all social media.

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    Chris 4 years

    I legit laughed when Toth wished MIB continued success with the site. Appropriate, since he’s the only reason to come here anymore (sans the many ppl who comment. You all also make it worth coming here).

    I understand Toth’s “anonymity” problem, though. If you want to write a column about someone, and how…well, bad they are, put your name to it. If you’re looking to be taken seriously, like I assume this site is, then the writer putting his NAME to his work isn’t much to ask.

    Just my opinion.

    I was never a big fan of Toth’s work, wasn’t a detractor, either. He was just kind of there for me. However, I have a lot more respect for him today after reading his reply. He didn’t have to do it, none of his peers would have cared if he hadn’t. As others have mentioned, he took the high road. Good on him for it.

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    sam in oshawa 4 years

    New game…guess MIB career and name, long haul trucker–John Doe… BOB has been on a rant about the jays pitching and management style. He is absolutely bang on. Best he has sounded in ages. AA and Gibbons will not be gassed this yr. Bruce Arthur please stop whinning like a baby even Naylor is starting to sound the same fuck sakes Reimer is playing like shit and somehow the coach is scapegoating him crap…all this and the raptors play like men game in and game out… Liewike for mayor Dafoe and co. great start… they will not get gassed because the jays will compete hard and win wildcard spot…ramblings of an idiot …thank you…

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    To me Mike Toth was a bit of an engima when it came to being a TV/Radio personality with Rogers. While his highlight show consisted of his analysis/commentary on professional sports, I’m pretty sure that I read that his true passion was not the pro ranks and he enjoyed going to a Jr game or Christie Pits for a Maple Leaf baseball game. Plus to me, he was a bit of a quirky on-air personality, not unlike Jay Onrait, but without Onrait’s theatrics and stunt humour.

    Overall, I thought he and the “Big Dude” Sean McCormick had very good chemistry when they hosted Connected.

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    Waver 4 years

    Interesting article. I always wondered why Mike Toth wasn’t on tv anymore. I hear him quite a bit on 1010 and he does a good job but he was good on tv too. I thought he was great on Sportsnet, really funny and energetic. I remember him early on with on with the Jays guy and then he was great with Martine Gallard. I don’t really watch many sports shows anymore now that Jay and Dan are gone because the hosts are so boring. I just go to the internet. Too bad that Toth can’t get another gig but I guess that’s what happens when you piss off the coroporate guys.

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    I can think of numerous sports broadcasters who “tell it like it is” and they haven’t been blackballed so I’m not sure I buy Toth’s theory………….I was never much of a fan of his style but I admire him for coming on this site and posting his thoughts

    When Toth got the full time co-host job on the 590 mid-morning show I thought it was a peculiar decision……….maybe we can get Mr. Millman to give us the reasons why he made that move…………I thought that Hogan’s show was better when it had rotating Sportsnet (and before that TSN) personalities as the co-host each day

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    Patrick 4 years

    Toth almost choked a production staffer out. Tough to bounce back from that

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    Daniel 4 years

    Not intending to be crass, but we’ve been hearing for years that the Bills to Toronto story would heat up once Wilson passes away. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next while with this. TSN reported a month or two ago that a study was quietly being done on an NFL stadium.

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    Pudge72 4 years

    @Dom @Matt…Don Landry also does work (on a fill-in basis, I believe) for 1290 CJBK here in London, ON. Haven’t heard much as I don’t usually have radio on while working at home, and usually in GTA when not working from home otherwise.

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    Thanks to everyone for their comments. I suspected this post would generate a range of opinions and I’m glad to read so many viewpoints.

    Thanks to Mike Toth for taking the time to respond. I wish he had responded to my emails so that the story could have included more from his perspective. Nevertheless, I am glad he shared his side of things, and I respect his very honest comments.

    On the issue of anonymity: I have a real job that is not in media or sports. The reason I don’t use my real name is that I don’t want to take the risk that someone will take issue with what I write here as a hobby, and cause trouble in my real life. The internet is full of weird people, and personal vendettas for what happens online are not uncommon. Everyone I have interviewed for this site knows my real name. It’s not about hiding; it’s about trust.

    I try to be fair in my comments, and refrain from taking personal shots that go beyond the on air/in print performance of the people I write about. One of the heartening things for me has been that every member of the MSM who contacted me in response to this piece commented that the piece was fair. That’s good enough for me.

    That said, I am accountable for what I write. My email and twitter are public, and I try to respond to as many criticisms as possible. Further, I am not citing anonymous sources, nor am I pretending to be an “insider” in any fashion. I’m not using anonymity to say things I would otherwise not say. I’m just a guy who consumes a lot of sports media, and TSM is very kind to let me share my opinions on his site.

    Lastly, here’s a question: why does it matter how old I am, what I do for a living, or what my level of education is. How would that change the validity of any of the points I make? I don’t think it should. The anonymity objection is a way of dismissing a point of view rather than engaging with its substance.

    Thanks, as always, for reading and commenting. Discussion is the lifeblood of this site.

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    sportsnet staffer 4 years

    @ Patrick. I’ve worked at Sportsnet for many years and worked with both Mr Toth and the producer he supposedly “choked”. The whole incident has been GROSSLY exaggerated. He put his arm around the producer while they had a disagreement about the line up. That was it. The story has taken on a life of his own. Mr Toth was one of the most enjoyable anchors to work with. Very professional, creative and just as nice to the camera operators as he was to the CEO. I had a lot of respect for him and it bugs me when I read things that aren’t true.

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    Mike Toth 4 years

    Hey…Thanks to the Sportsnet Staffer for riding to my rescue…Yeah…I also tossed battery acid in my old producer’s eyes….These are the kind of goofy stories that get blown WAY out of proportion. I don’t mind people ripping my broadcast abilities at all.(Part of the game)But once in awhile, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to at least be in the ball park when it comes to the facts…..

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    Neil 4 years

    I can recall a time when Mike Toth provoked a conversation on radio that many in today’s and yesterday’s media society would not touch and would simply ignore. Mike suggested that when now backup Goalie Ray Emery was not getting signed after being bought out in Ottawa and had to resort to the KHL, that the unsigned black nhler might have been a victim of racism. Good on Toth for brining this to the forefront when all media outlets decided to ignore this or turn a blind eye. When you look at white athletes in the sport they instantly get a second chance for the same sin and sometimes worse. Most recently Tyler Sequin got a second chance with another team after the same type of off the ice behaviour that caused Ottawa to buy out Emery(going to parties and late for practices.) and Shaun Avery back then who’s behaviour always embarrassed the team and the league wore a different uniform every week. One would perceive that the rope with minorities in the sport is very short. I guess what puzzles me is that Emery played himself into a big contract with Ottawa yet when Ottawa let him go all of a sudden all teams perceived that change for this young man was impossible, in addition to the two mentioned above, now GM and then player Craig Mactavish and once superstar Danny Healy, despite engaging in drunk driving that resulted in deaths were instantly tendered roster spots after criminal behavior. These examples show that generally GM’s will always try to reinvent the wheel. Mike suggest that in Emery’s case culture may have stood in the way of that.
    I give much respect to Toth for brining the truth to what many deemed later as trouble making.

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    Greg 4 years

    I never had issue with Mike until I heard him interview Tommy Lasorda. Lasorda was on and was certainly exhibiting symptoms of confusion. It was sad to see a legend age and struggle to know what was going on. Hogan dealt with the issue with class, steering Lasorda to talk about the good old days but my recollection is that Toth was not as elegant.

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    Jesse 4 years

    Pretty sure that calling Don Cherry “borderline racist” is just false.