Grapes Rips Kadri; Wilner Goes Bold


Couple of things caught my eye or ears today:

1. Don Cherry ripped Nazem Kadri and good on the Fan590 this am. Basically Grapes said that a guy who has only scored 5 goals this year shouldn’t be talking all the time. “Shut up and play” was the direct quote from Donald S. You know I am not a Grapes fan, but the segment was pretty funny.

2. Mike Wilner was also on the morning show and was talking about the Blue Jays trade. Wilner is a big fan of the deal and offered up “That a player with <3 yrs service & 2 top8 MVP finishes has never been traded before". That certainly got some tongues wagging!3. Rogers may not have opened the purse strings for the Blue Jays after all:"The endgame between the Toronto Blue Jays and Melky Cabrera is probably coming soon, and the perception that Alex Anthopoulos is sitting on a significant cache of payroll to spend may not be the case as the moment of truth looms.

That from Shi Davidi on

4. Yet another reason that feature writers should write their own headlines, a good story by Michael Grange on the Blue Jays that really has little to do with the headline written for the story.

5. You are never as good as your last win nor as bad as your last losing streak right? As much as perhaps people over-reacted to the Maple Leafs in their last tailspin, we can’t read too much into their recent play either. Let’s just go with inconsistent. I disagree that Shanahan was either right or wrong. Too early to tell.

Happy Monday night!


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December 1, 2014 11:13 pm

Wait, Wilner was a fan of something Jays management did???? #shocker

Rob in Aurora
Rob in Aurora
December 2, 2014 8:23 am

Just as info: TSN and TSN 1050 have very good content too. AA was on TSN Drive with Hogan filling in and it was very interesting. He usually shuns TSN probably through a directive from Rogers… And he wasn’t being asked questions by a co-worker, so there was no “off limits” or shilling. It was a good piece.

I can’t recommend Leafs lunch and Macko and Cauz highly enough. Great radio. (Sid and Tim are an embarrassment).

December 2, 2014 3:14 pm

Poll question: Is Mike Wilner a journalist, analyst, or propagandist?

December 2, 2014 8:27 pm


I would say Mike Wilner is a propagandist. He may have been a journalist pre Rogers but now he’s just a corporate schill. I agree with you about Macko and Cauz on TSN 1050 they are awesome. Great guests and they have chemistry. Tim and Sid are stuck in the gimmick they did almost 10 years ago on Score Tonight on the now re branded Sportsnet 360 back in The Score days..

For a. good read you should check out Dan Toman’s latest piece on The regarding Josh Donaldson and the Jays.

December 3, 2014 3:49 pm

Wilner is definitely a propagandist. He never really break any stories, you would think Rogers would throw him a bone once in a while for being a corporate shill but the only things he breaks are who’s bobblehead is coming out this year. I’ve never seen a “expert” being so wrong on player or team analysis as Wilner is.

I’ve come up with a check list of how Wilner reacts to baseball transactions (Blue Jays and non-Blue Jays) It accurate at least 90% of the time

Blue Jays TRADE: The Jays ALWAYS win the trade, no matter what circumstance. If they get a established player for prospects or vise versa in Wilner world the Jays GM always robbed the other GM and is a “wizard”
Blue Jays signs FREE AGENT: Always is an upgrade from who was in that position last season, ALWAYS gets great value.
Blue Jays LOSE A PLAYER: That player is NEVER as good as you think (even if he hyped him the season before) easily replaceable, other team spend too much. Throw in a “locker room issue even though never mention during the season

Non Jays TRADES: When a team trades prospect for an established player. The team who gets the established player normally is said they gave up too many prospects for the player
FREE AGENT signing not concerning Jays: Wilner will normally say the other team paid to much/give too much term for the player.

Chef Mike in Burlington
December 4, 2014 11:05 am

Wilber a total schil for the Jays, and the primary reason I’ve stopped caring. I think it was the fall of 2011 when he said that folks who complain that being 81-81 and missing the playoffs for the 17th year , don’t know anything and that it doesn’t mean it was a bad season…. 3 years later it’s the same GM and the same owners and the same post season results.

December 5, 2014 10:16 pm

1. It’s “Shill.”
2. It’s the laziest accusation you can make.

December 8, 2014 8:42 pm

Hugely unfair to call “Wilber” a “schil”. Sounds like you have professional envy from your armchair.

“Wilber” was suspended for criticizing the Jays and while he has said positives, he has also said negatives too,. True some more positives than negatives net-wise, but far, far more critical than you have with your employer.

Remember, man, it’s sports. It’s entertainment. Rogers doesn’t have a monopoly on this. Harry Carey? Hawk Harrelson? Danny Gallavan? Foster Hewitt? The industry is more Entertainment Tonight than Washington Post, or whatever rose coloured glassy reference you prescribe to, oh omniscient one.

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