Friday Toronto Sports Media Poll ?

Friday Toronto Sports Media Poll ?

By TSM

Happy Friday!

We’ve made it through Winter and yes, another week.

I spent a good chunk of the early mornings and late afternoons/early evenings in the car this week. So for the first time in a very long time I was able to listen and flip back and forth between the Fan and TSN Radio during both the morning and afternoon drive shows.

I posted a summary already on the mornings shows.

Here are some observations on both:

Both stations seems to avoid putting guests on in the first 10-15 minutes of an hour in the am. I have no idea why they are doing it but I am told that traditionally that is when their audience is at it’s highest. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I would want to have my best offering on when the most people are listening and with all due respect to both stations, they are at their best when they have guests on.

Both stations feature almost exclusively Maple Leaf content in the mornings. Yes, if something major happens they talk about it. Yes there is a smattering of Blue Jays and Raptors talk but the vast majority of the talk is Maple Leaf based.

Both stations have a significant amount of gimmick in their morning show. Voice overs, phoney call ins etc. This isn’t unique to the current morning show on the Fan. As far back as I can remember the Fan morning show has featured a lot more sizzle then steak.

Those 3 statements are not true when it comes to either stations afternoon drive shows.

With the exception of those slots where calls are taken, both stations have guests on, it appears regardless of time slot.

Neither station in their afternoon drive focus as much on the Maple Leafs. Both stations do a really good job of featuring the sports news of the day. While there is a lot of hockey talk it doesn’t focus as much on just the Maple Leafs.

Naylor and McCown’s show are gimmick free. They are true and true sports talk radio shows.

The afternoon drive shows on both stations, when both hosts are present, are really good listens. Naylor’s show has come a LONG way since inception. When McCown was focused on something I wasn’t interested in, or Ken Reid was talking I had no problem flipping over to TSN and I ended up staying a lot longer than I have in the past.

So the question is: Why do you think that the two all sports stations in town are both offering up the type of programming they do as compared with their afternoon shows? Would you listen more if the morning shows were more aligned with their afternoon counterparts?

Happy Friday!

TSM

COMMENTS

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    “When McCown was focused on something I wasn’t interested in,or Ken Reid was talking I had no problem flipping over to TSN”

    the mere sound of Ken Reid’s voice made you turn the dial? ha ha ha

    seriously don’t understand why bob keeps letting him back on

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    Bob is way past it – has been for many years. Only a good co-host (Brunt) can carry him these days. And Reid ain’t that man.

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    PTS is unwatchable and unlistenable when Ken Reid is on there. He’s immature and childish, and not funny. He must have incriminating pictures of Moore and Pelley.

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    (Another) Andrew6 years ago

    I just put on 590 in the car – first time I’ve listened all week. Instead of T&S they’ve got Wilner and someone commentating on a pre-season baseball game. Needless to say I changed the station. When I got home I put on the TV, which I’d left on SN 360 before going to bed last night, and there are T&S doing a live interview with Eric Smith. T&S are also on at the Fan website. So obviously they’re not sick nor is it a day off for them. I didn’t realise that normal afternoon radio programming got preempted for pre-season baseball.

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    like to see Naylor on TV from 4-7

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    Bob seems in a worse than usual mood today, apparently due to PTS being pre-empted for spring training and tennis

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    I started listening to Richards a while back (I could never stand Brady and Walker, and can stand Blundell even less). At first i really enjoyed Richards and found his gimmicks funny – Bob Cole Chix i like, the whole fake caller thing (barkley, Al montoya, bobby Lu, etc). Over time, i started to realize how bad he is at conducting an interview and how superficial his knowledge of sports really is. It’s kinda scary how weak he is outside of the gimmicks. He speaks in circles and run-on sentences, comes across as fake and disingenuous when he’s trying to be serious. He tries to drop in a big word here and there which is completely out of place.

    i think a guy like Simmons would be good in his own show in the morning. I know that he annoys a lot of people and a lot of people would disagree but i have found him to be be pretty good when he’s had to sub in for Naylor.

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    One more question i have: Which at Rogers thought that more people would care about a spring training game being broadcast over PTS????? is it the same person who hired Blundell? Are there Chimpanzees running the FAN 590? Spring training games on the drive home????? Jesus

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    * meant to say which genius at Rogers….

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    I agree with roger. A spring training game over Tim and Sid and PTS?? As bob would say who gives a flying fadoo & a mistake of biblical proportions. Pelley (thing 1) and Moore (thing 2) are surely feeling the heat of the 5.2 billion dollar hockey deal that based on the ratings is looking like a financial bubble bath. It’s one bonehead decision at the fan after another.

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    I caught some of Dean Blundell today after not hearing it since it’s first show or two.

    I agree it’s too leafs heavy, but I have to say – it’s going better than I thought it would. Definitely A LOT lighter/more irreverent than PTS or Brady/Walker were. But I guess that’s what you want in the AM to draw a wider audience. He also seems to be pulling it off, sports knowledge wise.

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    Rogers cannot stream Blue Jays games due to copyright regulations, so they stream Tim & Sid and put the game on 590.

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    dogpounder6 years ago

    I would listen a lot more. The afternoon shows are way better due to depth of discussion. CBC radio gets most of my morning now since B+W left.

    I find myself listening to Naylor first now. Then going to the fan during commercials. Used to be the other way around. Exceptions: when Brunt, Deitsch, Freidman or Banks are on. I will stream the Friday roundtable over the weekend usually too.

    Macko and Caus (when on together) are hard to turn off lately. Good discussions and Caus makes me laugh.

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    dogpounder6 years ago

    *Cauz

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    Looks like The Score/360 made the right choice going with Tennis over Bob.

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    The morning shows are put together by Program Directors, who are completely unoriginal and daft. Not just in Toronto, but everywhere! Besides CBC, it seems that there just has to be a ‘morning zoo’ feel to it all, and that is terrible. The format has been copied and xeroxed so many times, that it parodies itself. No one is willing to take a creative chance, so you end up with the same 12-15 retreads bouncing from market to market, format to format.

    The problem with playing it straight, with the morning shows, would be lining up guests to talk at 6 and 7 AM.

    Top segment of the week was the Jeff O’Neill pig story from his days in Carolina. I almost drove off the road from laughing so much.

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    The only time I listen to MR is when an insider is on. I know it is repetitive but I guess its people like me they are targeting. I know Dreger or whomever will be talking Leafs and hockey of the last 24 hours and won’t be doing a lame impression of some irrelevant celbretard.

    My AM habits haven’t changed – listen to 590 and flip to TSN when 590 is on commercial or talking Raps. I had never heard Blundell before he was on 590 and find him better than Richards. In Blundell’s defense – when talking on a Leafs topic a couple weeks ago he said ‘That’s my opinion, for what its worth – which isn’t much’. Blundell knows exactly what kind of show he is doing and so does management at 590. We can criticize his lack of sports knowledge all we want – nobody cares. Is it the greatest show in the world? No. But certainly more listenable than MR.

    Can’t wait for Tim & Sid to F off and release the 3 hours of my sports radio life they’ve held hostage for years. Brady & Walker can’t come soon enough to afternoons.

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    Bob was at his worst this week with his Pete Rose mania. As a gambler he cant believe everyone doesn’t gamble, Ive seen this before with gamblers.
    But he’s like a spoilt child when people disagree with him.
    I think he seems very old these days, reactionary and constantly going into the wayback machine.
    Blair and Brunt talking baseball was awesome. I fully expect Blair to inherit the PTS chair once Bob’s contract is up.

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    Well said, Slim. Bob doesn’t interview guests anymore – he pushes his opinion on them. Regarding Rose, Bob has no problem with him betting on the teams he managed because he says he was betting on them to win. What a simplistic and ignorant viewpoint. Bob doesn’t realize that by betting on his team for a couple of games in a row and then NOT betting on his team for the next game he’s effectively betting against his team regardless. There are a lot ramifications that the old fart cannot or will not see. He likes Rose because Rose talked to him once. Whereas he hates Brendan Shanahan because he doesn’t do PTS. He’s a petty child.

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    I listened to Blundell for the first week. It proved to me that I was not getting the sports information that I was used to from Brady and Walker. So I am now listening to Richards. The guests that he has on the show provide the information needed and so far so good – I am enjoyed TSN1050 in the morning. I have no problems with the rest of the shows on The Fan – I get my baseball fix with Jeff Blair and I have always liked listening to PTS. I will miss Tim and Sid but I like the fact that Brady and Walker will continue on in that spot.

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    @Slim, incisive comment re:gamblers. I’ve heard that “everybody does it” line from a couple of other types of addicts. Ex-addicts are another story – they are like someone who has woken up from a nightmare, and is glad that it’s over.

    I prefer the afternoon shows to the morning. On my drive in, other than hearing the recap of what happened last night, my mind’s on my day ahead. The mindless chatter can be offputting, but I don’t know if I’d be into in-depth analysis at that hour either.

    The afternoon’s a different story. Then I want to clear my head, and am more ready to listen to sports talk. Informative talk, though. PTS and TSN Drive both have it, but as has been pointed out on these boards many times and in many ways, Naylor’s show is pulling ahead of Bob’s. I’m in the Gen X demographic, so may relate to Naylor’s co-hosts better than McCown’s. Better circulation of topics as well.

    I think that whole “morning zoo” concept is the outgrowth of all morning shows since I can remember. “Keep it light – people are on their way to work, taking their kids to school, etc.” As any reasonable boss knows, don’t expect brilliance before 9 am.