Toronto Sports Media Wrap Up Bob McCown Style

Toronto Sports Media Wrap Up Bob McCown Style

As I sit and watch this, Die Hard is on TV and what an awesome flick it is.  I posted about it on Facebook and noticed a ton of people, like me know all the lines…

Round and round she goes, where she stops, no one…..

So, Richard Deitsch a regular on Prime Time Sports had Bob McCown as a guest on Deitsch’s media podcast and thanks to Robert Carnell of the Globe and Mail I was up to 3:30am listening to it.  If you read this blog or follow us on Twitter it’s a must listen to.  Here are my thoughts:

In case there was any question about it, Bob is all about Bob.

I will admit, I had never heard Bob tell the story about how he moved to Toronto, or anything about his father before.

Similarly, despite having listening to the show for years, literally, I don’t recall ever hearing Muhammad Ali on the show.  I admit that I almost always flipped when McCown used to talk boxing, unless Bert Randolph Sugar was on because he was hilarious.

Not that there was much doubt, but McCown confirmed his contract is up at the end of December.  He added in a few gems:

Item: He’s been told that he has “tenure and can stay as long as I want” but he’s not sure what he wants.

While McCown’s ratings are industry leading (See below), I can’t imagine he’s been offered a blank cheque.  The single most frequent banter in this business is about Bob’s contract status, what his next contract will look like and how he can’t yet retire.  McCown said he doesn’t know if he wants to reduce his show down to two hours (his words not mine) or take more vacation (is that humanly possible?) or travel more( yes that’s what the audience is hoping for, Bob from the Bahamas or Bob from Las Vegas.).

I’ve heard from many people who say there is little to no doubt Bob will be back.  I’ve heard he could simply do a 1 hour network show.  I will admit, the two-hour option Bob suggested on the podcast, I had not heard, but Bob threw it out there so there you go.

My gut tells me he comes back for less hours and less money.

The show, BTW with Cox as a permanent co-host has not been this good in years. (see below).

Item: He likes to say things to the paper writers to see what sticks.

Bob was read a quote from Shoalts’s column where it said McCown is bored.  McCown said that he likes to play with writers and that throughout his career he has had many firsts: first sports tv interview show (Sportsline), first sports radio interview show in Canada (PTS) and that he is longing for another first and he can’t figure out where the next “first” comes from.

I don’t buy it.

Bob is about Bob.

Bob is very smart and nothing comes out of his mouth that isn’t calculated.

Bob doesn’t do interviews often.

The Globe articles were approved or even Bob’s own ideas so there was a reason he either agreed to them OR approached Shoalts himself (believe whichever you want).

So saying he is bored was on purpose and was said for a very specific reason.

With a contract expiring, there is a thought out there that planting a seed that he is bored would get the “suits” as he calls them to beg him to come back or offer him he even more.

Whether you believe that or not, you have to believe the comment in the Globe had nothing to do with firsts and everything to do with a new contract.

Item: Bob doesn’t feel like he needs to play a character on air anymore.

Yes, Bob has always liked to play a character. He compared himself to a Hollywood or broadway actor (one of the big boys, I don’t recall which ) in the early days.  He said there is less of a need to be a jerk to callers etc.

I don’t think Bob was acting when he used to tell off callers.  Bob doesn’t take that many calls anymore (he said he’s taken over 50,000 over the years- but hey who’s counting?).  However, when he used to scream or hang up on callers it was for the reasons that many of us would have done the same thing.

What has changed is that he no longer is combative to his guests. Personally I think that’s because he doesn’t bring on guys he doesn’t’ like that much anymore and with age he’s started to have a turtle complex.  Old Bob would bash the hell out of someone when they weren’t on air with him and bash them (character or not) when they were on the air.

That doesn’t seem to happen anymore.  He’s buddy buddy with the vast majority of his guests these days.  He was ruthless about Paul Godfrey when he was running the Jays until Godfrey was on air and they were pals.  He destroyed Larry Smith both when talking about Smith and when Smith was on air.

The most recent one was Doug Maclean, but they kissed and made up.

I think the biggest reason he hasn’t been character Bob and the main reason Bob isn’t bored anymore is that the Toronto teams, specifically the Blue Jays are vastly improved.  Money not withstanding, I think this podcast is much different if the Jays had not been on this nice run they have been on.  Bob is a baseball fan first and it comes out when he’s been on air for the last few years.  The fact he’s talking baseball in February as opposed to the 4th line Marlie center having a bad game makes Bob a better host.

Engaged McCown is the best in the business.  Bored Bob is as bad as, well, George Russic.

The Jays on a run, the Raptors in the playoffs and the rebuilt Maple Leafs have made the topics more interesting.  There is more intrigue in town and more interest.  Take that and add in the strong performance of Cox and you have a much better show and less need for the character. Not having Ken Reid helps too.

Without question, the most interesting part of the interview was when McCown was asked what are the keys to success (in fact Mccown was asked for something that works and something that doesn’t but his answer was awesome nevertheless).

Bob said that the most important thing to him is active listening.  “The next question should be based on the answer to the previous question”.

BINGO!!!

That, my friends is 100% what makes Bob the best.

There is not a single person on air in Toronto (or any other major market for that matter) that nails this like Bob does.  People give Bob shit for not preparing (with apologies to Anonygo Montoya, I do not think that means what you think it means) but Bob actually listens to the answers to his questions.  Too often you can tell the interviewer has a list of questions (written or otherwise) that they must get to, so, that whatever comes out of the subject’s mouth is inconsequential.

There are many on air talent at both stations that will fly over a gem in an answer and not dive deep on it.  As a listener that drives us crazy.  Bob, is the best at it. Bob asks the questions that we would ask if we were conducting the interview.  The others try to hard to be smart.

The second point he made, and I hadn’t thought much about is that when he asks questions Bob is very focused on asking the questions in as few words as possible. I’ve noticed on this site especially that many of you complain about yammering by this host or that host (Blair comes to mind).  Bob cuts to the chase.  He simply asks the question with as little filler as possible.

It wasn’t until he raised this that I actually thought about it and it makes total sense.

I don’t want to write more about the Bobcast. It’s a great interview and worth the 60+ minutes that it runs. Given how few of these things he does it’s a huge get and it is very well done.

Mike Hogan tweeted this week that he is no longer part of the Argo family in that TSN is no longer going to have an independent radio play by play of Argo games and is instead going to use TV audio for radio.

Look, I am not a CFL fan (or basher).  I went to an Argo game in their last year at the dome and but for my daughter dancing at halftime it was torture. Root canal was both more fun and more exciting.

Mike Hogan is the Gord Stellick of CFL Football and the Argos too.

If I am the Argo’s I don’t put a muzzle on the number one cheerleader.  Doing so is penny foolish.

I am told that the Argos radio costs have been fully subsidized by the team for years.  I am told that more people read this blog then listened to those games.  So I get that it was no bonanza for the team.

But….

Newer owners, horrific season in a new stadium, do things to grow the base. Killing the one media member you have on air is just stupid.

Smarten up, put Hogan and the Argos back on the air no matter what it costs you.

This is up there with the notion of leaving Bowen and Ralph at home for Leaf road games.

Dumb.

Conrad Black tweeted this week that the National Post bankruptcy is inevitable.  Shocking? No.  Surprising, yes, it still is.

In case there is any questions Ray Ferraro is right up there with any other hockey analyst on TV anywhere.

Joe Louis will host it’s last hockey game this weekend.  My memories?  I wasn’t there but the Borschevsky goal is my favorite Leafs highlight at the Joe. My first date with Mrs. TSM was for a Leafs/Wings game some 20+ years back.  Little TSM won a hockey tournament playing at the Joe. However, my favorite memory is back in the year the Wings won their first cup, game 7 was going to be at the Joe.  A friend had arranged for me to get tickets and I had to call the box office so I called down to the Joe to see when they would open.  I got an automated response and was prompted to type in the name of the person I wanted.  I entered “BOX”( for box office)  and I got, “for Scott Bowman, head coach press 1.” being 9 am game day, I figured what the hell, why not. Two seconds later a familiar voice answered the phone ” Scott Boman”!!!  “good luck coach” I said, stunned that he answered and promptly hung up.

 

 

Say what you want about the lineup or audience size on TSN, their secret weapon??? Andi Pettrillo.  Her ability to host a radio show and then more recently her emergence on TSN TV is well worth noting.  Give Andi credit for this: she knows she is not the expert nor is she expected to be.  She passes the puck around perfectly.

I recently wrote about the crap going on in the NBA with teams sitting stars on the road on back to back nights.  I hear the Penguins are sitting Malkin and more against the Leafs tonight.  What’s worse than the fact they are allowed to do this when fans paid to see the Pens stars? Leaf fans pretending that this is a good thing for their playoff hopes.  I want the playoffs more than most.  I want them legitimately though. If I bought tickets to the game I’d feel ripped off.

A couple of take aways from the Bettman appearance on PTS this week:

I love all the promos of the HUGE “get” for landing Napoleon on the day he officially killed the Olympic talks.

The highlight was Bettman calling them lucky in that he booked the appearance two weeks prior and didn’t want to cancel ( I can think of 5 billion reasons why he didn’t want to cancel).

LOL

Bettman dropped a bombshell in the interview that I had not heard ANYONE else mention in the Olympic talks… The right to play on the Olympics was in the previous CBA but not bargained for in this one!  So, clearly this one is on Fehr… Paging Mr. Brooks, Mr. Larry Brooks…….

The topic of no women on the Fan 590 continues to fill my in boxes.

Did you see this tweet this week:

 

 

Yes, it is getting more and more difficult to find talent in Canada.

If you need more evidence I present Patrick O’Sullivan whose 15 minutes are WAY up, unless there is some serious offseason training coming up.

Last point I promise on the lack of ladies at the Fan, I don’t mean to pick on Hugh Burrill but there wasn’t a single women available who could have been utilized in that slot??  I don’t buy it.

Have a great day (whichever one you are reading this)

 

Jonah

COMMENTS

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    Jaks 4 months

    Good stuff! Any idea why Bob never has Wilner on primetime? Is there a story there?

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    mario 4 months

    Always been a big fan of Bob McCowan and PTS, absolutely correct when he’s not interested in a topic or bored he can be a dial changer . Thanks and looking forward listening to this interview.

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    McCown was best for me when his opinion on PTS would lead or become the story. Those years are looking past.

    Any hockey fan who buys a ticket for the last few games of the season is betting on a playoff worthy game vs a dog game. We all know that.

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    Paul G. 4 months

    Thanks for the link to the Podcast. It provides a good insight into the man and his views; whether a fan (I am) or not.

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    Robinaurora 4 months

    Yet another promo for the Fan. I stopped listening to McCown years ago because he made me feel 100 years old.

    Andi Petrillo is a woman, that doesn’t automatically make her good at her job simply because she is one of the few women doing it. She’s terrible on Leafs Lunch (the “girlie” act is painful and the male co-hosts flirting is beyond cringeworthy)…She’s barely passable on the TSN hockey panel. I would call her style “proficient but awkward”. Why not Natasha? She is a far better broadcaster, with a more calm and stable on air presence + and she has seniority at TSN. How did she or Kaye get stepped over. (Laura Daikun was excellent when she stepped in too)…

    Anyway, this column is proof there is no accounting for taste and preference as I find that Patrick O’Sullivan is “pretty good” as a co-host on LL and very good on TSN radio’s pregame shows with Tatti. I’m pretty confident that the writer doesn’t really listen to TSN, he just comments on it.

    (May I respectfully suggest a thorough proof read before posting? This column is full of errors.)

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    mikew 4 months

    Leafs lunch which is now on air for 2 hours, is unlistenable. Patrick and Andi trying to out talk each other is painful.

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    Brad 4 months

    Agree mostly w/ Robinaurora re: Petrillo & Leafs Lunch, but you left out Tessa Bonhomme who certainly deserves a mention and is excellent when given the hosting duties to That’s Hockey. Also, Button is cringeworthy no matter what the topic of conversation is. O’Sullivan is painful to listen to, yet he does offer up an interesting take every now and then. I wouldn’t write him off yet, perhaps just more seasoning is needed. Miller is solid when he sits in, and while I find Poulin to be pedestrian, he’s decent enough.

    I enjoyed the Bettman interview on PTS this week. Typically I would ignore anything Bettman, but wanted to hear his take after the Olympic announcement. Despite many commentators proclaiming the fans are outraged, I don’t find this to be the prevailing sentiment w those I speak with. I am very happy that there won’t be NHL participation and that the league won’t be shutting down for 3 weeks next year. I just don’t feel good about being on the side of Bettman and the owners.

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    yaz 4 months

    April 6 Hour 3 Overdrive, Fehr tried to say the Olympics was in the CBA : ‘First thing is that there is a provision about cooperation with respect to the Olympics which is in here, as well as other things. Secondly, in 2012-13 we were in a position in which there were a few other things that had much more significance and were much more immediate. We weren’t sure if we were going to have a season at all. We had a handshake agreement on Sochi which everybody complied with and there wasn’t an issue there. And we had General cooperation on international which specifically referneces the agremeent.’

    But then Fehr finishes with ‘In retrospect would it have been better to have it in the agreement? Yes. It would have been better to have no cap too.’

    Basically he said with the 2018 Olympics 6 years away at the time of the last lockout, it was too difficult to put it in the agreement without knowing any specifics

    For me, one thing that had to weigh heavily on the NHL owners’ decision was influence from Rogers. That hasn’t been mentioned by anyone. They took a real beating in the first three years of a 12 year deal. Now in it’s fourth year would Rogers really want the season bludgeoned with two weeks of 3 am games just when many of the Canadia clubs are turning it around? The only ‘partners in the game’ are Rogers and the Owners. Players do nothing other than mumble ‘get pucks deep’ and cash big pay checks. The NHL will be in Beijing in 2022 though.

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    Poker Guy 4 months

    I will admit Petrillo was not bad on the panel on the tv side recently. However, her turn as host on Leafs Lunch is vomit worthy.
    Someone wake up Patrick O’ Sullivan. He puts me to sleep when I listen to him.

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    Bobby G 4 months

    The Argos would be better off having a guy in a studio describing the game off a monitor than simulcasting the TV feed — or not having it on radio at all. There’s no point to it. You can’t follow the game. The Argos need all the help they can get — and this ain’t helping.

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    Justin 4 months

    Leafs Lunch is just horrible. I can’t listen to it. I like Andi, but O’Sullivan’s a real POS considering what he’s tweeted to people (plus he’s a yawner), and Button’s better on TV than radio. The whole thing just doesn’t work. Scrap the show as is, move it back to 1 hour, and hire David Alter or David Bastl to host. Or how about Mark Hebscher? I’d love to have him back on the airwaves. Time to try something different.

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    Adnan 4 months

    Leafs Lunch is terrible. The dialog between Petrillo and O’Sullivan is heavily slanted to protecting the old “played the game” stance (by journeymen) with little insight into innovative thinking or how the younger stars are adapting so quickly to the NHL. Poulin the exact same thing. Mono speak by how it was 10 years ago. Plus when did TSN basically become a Babcock PR team?

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    MontFromLondonOnt 4 months

    Re: Any idea why Bob never has Wilner on primetime?
    Simple really – Would you want anything to do with Wilner that smug
    condescending jerk?

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    MjwW 4 months

    “The show, BTW with Cox as a permanent co-host has not been this good in years. (see below).”

    I’m sorry, but what the hell show are you listening to? Cox is the same irritating and annoying person that he’s always been. Getting dumped from HNIC has not humbled him one bit. I really don’t get the people that praise him…it’s baffling. Do you enjoy constantly negative hot takes? Is that why you follow sports?

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    Wayne T 4 months

    I can’t believe all the negativity for Leafs Lunch! It’s a great show especially with Poulin on with O’Sullivan. They both offer insight into the game, salary structure and whose an NHL player or not. And I is a great host! She takes opposing points of view quite often to stir discussion and debate. I love Gord Miller as an announcer but on this show he fails by trying to demonstrate how much he knows about the history of hockey, and constantly interrupts!
    Love leafs lunch and wish both hours were on TV but certainly a must program to watch or listen to.

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    Gary 4 months

    The Bob McCown story I really want to hear about is how he feels about his infamous Tom Brady interview in late 2008/ early 2009. If you recall Brady was recovering from season ending knee surgery. After international speculation about how he was progressing, all of a sudden it is announced that Brady will appear on PrimeTime in an “exclusive” interview. New England practically lost their mind waiting for updates and wondering why Brady is interviewing with a Toronto radio station.

    In the end, the entire interview was essentially a promo for some natural health supplement – it was excruciating to listen to, downright embarrassing I thought and thoroughly beneath McCown (in my humble opinion based on how he normally operates with athletes). If memory serves McCown asked a question along the lines of “how’s the recovery going?” but otherwise they basically talked about the company Brady was promoting. I’m not naive, I know that’s how media works, but this one felt particularly slanted towards the promo item.

    I don’t mean this to bash him – McCown is an icon in Canadian media and deservedly so. However, I would absolutely love to know now how he feels about that particular interview now – any regret, or still happy to have done what he had to do in order to get a big star like that.

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    Pete 4 months

    Going back to the females on radio topic again, I still don’t see it as that big of an issue, especially when both stations are filled with females doing the highlight shows. Didn’t the Fan have Kayla Harris doing what Burrill does only to let go of her shortly after? Anyways, I do agree that this job is beneath Burrill’s potential. I don’t know if it’s a Ryan Fabro thing, but the idea of spending 5 to 8 minutes on a recap twice in an hour just does not work. Then last week I heard Brady & Price taking calls with that cheesy porno music they used for Blundell. Add on top Price’s constant “Alright”, and I’ve landed right back to Naylor & Landsberg on a consistent basis.

    I’m sorry, but what the hell show are you listening to? Cox is the same irritating and annoying person that he’s always been. Getting dumped from HNIC has not humbled him one bit. I really don’t get the people that praise him…it’s baffling. Do you enjoy constantly negative hot takes? Is that why you follow sports?

    Agreed. Still smug as ever. Cox is an instant dial changer.

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    Simulcast in Mississauga 4 months

    The interview with Bob McCown was fascinating! It put many of Bob’s comments and approach into both historical and current context. Thanks for bringing it forth to the readers of this blog!

    I’d be very happy if Bob renews with Rogers for a few more years hosting PTS fifteen hours a week. However Bob said in the interview that with his contract expiring at the end of this year, he is going to reassess his situation in terms of whether or not he will do the show again and if he does, then how many hours will he do per week. At age 64 and with other interests, that makes sense.

    McCown also stated in the interview at about the 1:08 mark that he and his wife are talking about retiring in Vegas and that a couple of weeks ago he was in Vegas looking at buying a home there. TSN1050 would be cheering that news but loyal listeners over so many years like me will miss him if he leaves PTS. However, Bob deserves the best no matter how it turns out! My guess is that he will do the show two hours a day/two weeks out of four for another year while the FAN breaks in a new permanent host (Blair?) and thereafter will be a guest on PTS himself as in “Bob McCown live from Las Vegas”.

    The discussion about TSN1050’s only real star (outside of guests such as Bob McKenzie), Andi Petrillo, is interesting. I have mentioned before in the TSM blog that I enjoy Andi’s Leafs Lunch (especially on TV when simulcast) and much prefer it to the ancient Hockey Central at Noon. Petrillo is a refreshingly different voice and I’m not surprised that the in-dire-straits TSN1050 has added an hour to Leafs Lunch. In addition to being excellent on Leafs Lunch, Andi is very good on TV; her Olympics stint on CBC last summer demonstrated her expertise and she did a better job than many of the other CBC hosts. TSN should bring her aboard as permanent Leafs game host.

    Patrick O’Sullivan gets a bad rap on this site sometimes but his viewpoints are definitely worth listening to. O’Sullivan doesn’t give you the recycled jock talk we hear from the Odog, Kypreos, Healey or Doug Maclean; instead he tells his listeners what hockey players actually think and explains the underlying reasons for decisions made by NHL executives and team officials. While O’Sullivan needs coaching on the TV side (ie. he spends too much time looking at/reading from his computer monitor, talks too much about Zach Hyman while rolling his eyes, etc), we should give him a break as a newbie to live broadcasting. No broadcaster is perfect out of the box. Petrillo and O’Sullivan make Leafs Lunch my second “must listen” show after PTS.

    Thanks again for the Bob McCown interview links!

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    Original Mitch 4 months

    IMO Bob McCowan got “Rogers-ed” a few years back and has since stopped caring. Now he collects his paychecks and just does whatever Rogers wants, i.e. Doug Maclean as a guest, Cox/Reid as co-hosts. The fire within him has been extinguished with all those zero’s in his paycheck. Maybe age as well, maybe. Bob used to be a different show, now its essentially a plug for SN (as is all Fan shows) and Bob seems okay with that. Oh sure, once in a while something will pop up that will put a spring in his voice, but those occasions are becoming fewer and further between. Of course, if he does leave the station and retires, which sycophant will take his place?

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    Tighthead 4 months

    Did Bob and Lorne Rubinstein ever make up after their on air spat about 10 years ago?

    I like Lorne, but he came off as humourless in that one.

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    yaz 4 months

    Stuck in a downtown parking garage ahead of a meeting and I’m only one floor down. I wanted to listen to Overdrive but all I can pick up is the sound of a squealing alien ship from a bad 50s B movie landing underwater. 590 perfectly clear as I listen to a caller who doesn’t care about ‘analystics.’ when discussing the merits of one Jake Gardiner. Sometimes we misunderestimate the value of a good caller. TSN should rethink their signal strength strategery.

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    Curt 4 months

    Nice love letter to Bob. The fact is, despite his ratings, Bob’s been mailing it in for years and taking the piss out of his listeners in the process. Yes, Cox as permanent co-host is an improvement over the Ken Reid era, but it’s not that hard to improve from rock bottom, is it? I’m old enough to remember Bob from the Shakey era and there’s no comparison. Rogers owns him these days and he knows it.

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    Jimmynewshoes 4 months

    Gee Jonah another shot for no woman on the fan 590 ? Do you have some kind of personal interest in it happening?
    Lots of woman on sports net reading highlights
    What exact benefit would having a woman replace Hugh Burrell be ?
    Keep in mind very few ( I.e zero) woman listen to sports radio and why exactly would guys want to listen to a woman ?

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    Island Chris 4 months

    Still not sure about Petrillo. I give her credit, she took over a show whose previous incarnation was insanely popular. Can’t be easy. But I feel like she’s unaware of what her strengths are.. I find when she tries to be funny or silly it comes across as forced and kind of fake and then when the other hosts egg her on it just sounds even more contrived. Also, I could care less about her being a “goalie hugger.”

    But I do like when she approaches topics from the mindset of a fan, to me, it sounds more like a real conversation as opposed to talking points which is supposed to be radio’s big strength. Unfortunately that often gets derailed by O’Sullivan’s apparent hatred for all things fan. Seriously, does that guy like anything about his job? Also, is he really that petulant in real life?

    And I have to say, I’ve really enjoyed Gord Miller on Leafs Lunch. On TV he’s always come across as very straight laced and not very opinionated but on Leafs Lunch it seems to be the opposite. He sounds like he’s having fun and extremely opinionated and works well with Petrillo too.

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    Mark R 4 months

    Yaz, why are you still using the dial? Why not use their app or Tunein?

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    yaz 4 months

    @Mark R. I often do but I go over on my data almost every month. The irony is that Rogers charges me fifty dollars a GB to listen to Bell.

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    Paul G. 4 months

    PTS is live from the Dome. Bob is absent and the panel consists of Blair and Barker; along with Cox and Shannon.
    I realize that Cox is there because of his co-host status, but for the season home opener…they couldn’t come up with another baseball guy?
    Rogers did the same thing last year.

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    The people at 590 seem to be pretty intent on giving J.D. Bunkis a high profile………..I can’t think of very many other young broadcasters at 590 that have been given this type of opportunity:

    he has been co-host from 7 to 11 PM on many weeknights over the last few months
    he is producer of Walker’s show and ends up being on the air more than any producer I can ever remember
    he has already been a guest on the new Brady/Price morning show on more than one occasion
    he is co-host of a basketball podcast on the Sportsnet website

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    Today is the day. Raw Mike Richards Live at 10am. The website looks great, can’t wait to watch the show.

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    So far it appears that the main strategy that 1050 is using for the new 9:00 to 10:00 AM hour of Naylor & Landsberg is to take a bunch of phone calls and then replay a segment from earlier in the show…………I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but you would think it wouldn’t be that hard to get some decent guests at that time of the day

    Having said that, one of their other strategies has been to extend the Breakfast Club for another half hour until 9:30………those roundtable discussions are usually pretty good so I agree with this idea

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    Cirroc 4 months

    As the NHL playoff season is upon us, I’d just like to reiterate how shit Rogers is. Local feed for Pens/Caps? And they couldn’t even get the superior Pens feed? A series featuring arguably the best player in the game and this is what we get. Just another day at the office for these clowns.

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    Cirroc 4 months

    Pens/Jackets it should read.

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    yaz 4 months

    Tried to find Mike Richards. His previews are on Itunes podcasts. But now you have to subscribe to something outsode of Itunes with an email and password.

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    @Yaz

    the show didn’t happen yesterday. He had some sort of medical emergency. He was in the hospital all day. I’m not sure if the show is happening today or not. You can find it on his website at rawmikerichards.com although at the moment it’s nothing but a update about what happened yesterday. prior to that the site looked really good.

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    yaz 4 months

    Yes, saw that today. A blockage forced him to be rushed to the hospital. Hope all is well.

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    @Tighthead

    As far as I know Lorne Rubenstein has not been on PTS since that on air incident with McCown many years ago……….so my guess would be that they have not made up and Rubenstein is still in the infamous “PTS Black Book”

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    (Another) Andrew 4 months

    Discussing the NHL’s crappy US television ratings tonight felt like a troll on John Shannon. If it was then it worked as he got all defensive.

    An hour later, after dinner, I came back to PTS and there was Shannon saying the Raptors playoff schedule was bad for Toronto or the arena or something. If it were the NHL, not the NBA, giving a Toronto team that schedule he’d be saying it was great.

    I don’t mind the guy. He can be interesting talking about media stuff but his defensiveness about the NHL strikes me – a European immigrant – as being a quintessentially Canadian characteristic. Funny.

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    Tighthead 4 months

    Hi Mike. Thanks.

    Sorry for spelling Lorne’s name wrong. I’m a big golf guy and I really respect Lorne, but thought he was in the wrong on that one. How can you have played that many holes of golf and hung out in so many clubhouses and not take a little good natured ball busting?

    As I recall, Lorne didn’t even hear the original dig “Rube loves a freebie” but someone told him about it and he got on the phone full of red-ass.

    I just always assumed those two would be able to patch it up.

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    Matthew Paap 4 months

    McCown worked because he was the Canadian version of Letterman or the sports Obermann(not the political one), and played his irreverence to the hilt. His crankiness was incredibly likable because he never took himself too seriously, to the point of being subtly self-effacing and funny – which always goes over well in Canada. Even though at times Bob could take his own opinion too seriously, he would have no problem for a guest of panelist to try and take it apart. Callers who tried to do so were destroyed, sometimes to amazing results. And like most Canadian men, he made fun of his friends on air to keep their big heads in check, but at the same time enjoyed being made fun of himself. (The only time the show gets bad is when Bob gets too sensitive)

    The most interesting thing is that both Dan Patrick and Dan Lebatard have gone to the top of sports talk profession with the American version of this, both making millions of dollars with a similar formula. But McCowan was the original, and like Letterman in the early 1990’s, his show now is much more palatable to the mass audience than its former, more confrontational incarnation. Does that give it less edge than it used to? Of course it does. But it’s still better than anything ever done in Canada on sports radio.

    Derringer and Marsden were the only ones even close, but Derringer saw how easily The Fan disposed of talent, and smartly became the king of Q107, putting himself in McCown’s indispensable top dog position there.