Fall & Winter 2018-2019 Sports Radio Ratings

Fall & Winter 2018-2019 Sports Radio Ratings

by mike in boston / @mikeinbostonemail

 

If there’s one topic that has generated more interest than any other around here it’s radio ratings. The Fall and Winter books are important since these represent the time of the year when all four sports are making news and people are generally at work and in their cars. As we have seen time and time again, February and March are when the biggest changes tend to happen to the lineups. Spring matters too with Jays and playoffs but then summer is a big pile of who cares.

 

Before proceeding to the numbers, here is the necessary disclaimer: Numeris’ methodology is not good. The entire Toronto area market is modeled on the listening habits of a small number of people who wear electronic devices called PPMs. If these people wear headphones to listen to radio then the device won’t pick up the signal unless they also wear some special adapter. PPMs won’t work at all if they use bluetooth headphones.

 

This is a legacy issue since stations are now able to quantify the number of individual streams coming from their apps, and can also track the number of downloads their podcasts generate. However none of this data is currently factored into ratings, and Numeris has not announced any plans to do so in the future.

 

The consequence is that the numbers often have odd jumps and dips. When dealing with small sample sizes this is most likely attributable to random changes in the schedules of the PPM-wearers rather than the established audience intentionally tuning in or out of a particular show.

 

Despite all these flaws, this is the system that the industry itself has chosen and there seems to be little desire from within to aim for something better. Yet these same flawed numbers are what program directors use to make firing decisions because a) there is nothing better out there and b) these numbers are what drive ad sales. As the CRTC recently noted in a report, AM radio relies on local ad sales (versus national ads for FM) so program directors are slavishly wedded to the flawed system whether they like it or not.

 

With all that out of the way here is how the two Male demos look:

 

Station M25-54 M25-54   M18-34 M18-34
           
  % Share of Hrs. Tuned % Share of Hrs. Tuned   % Share of Hrs. Tuned % Share of Hrs. Tuned
  Nov. 26-Feb. 24 Aug. 27-Nov. 25   Nov. 26-Feb. 24 Aug. 27-Nov. 25
           
           
M-Fr. 6a-9a          
FAN 590 3.7 4.7   3.7 4.3
TSN 1050 1.2 1.7   0.1 0.1
           
           
           
           
           
M-Fr. 12p-1p          
FAN 590 2.5 4.3   1.1 5.1
TSN 1050 1.2 1.7   0.3 0.2
           
M-Fr. 1p-4p          
FAN 590 1.1 1.8   0.7 1.2
TSN 1050 1.3 1.2   0.2 0.1
           
M-Fr. 4p-7p          
FAN 590 4.8 5.8   3.9 4.4
TSN 1050 3.1 2.7   0.2 0.2

 

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Analysis

 

I am going to leave aside the M18-34 demo for the time being. The chances of getting a representative sample about this group from PPMs strikes me as impossible. Can you think of a 23 year old who is going to walk around with one of these around his neck or on his belt?

 

 

If you answered yes to that question now ask yourself how much you think we can generalize to the rest of the 18-34 year olds based on this person?

 

The older demo is less implausibly accounted for by the PPM data since that technology captures the habits of people who tend not to stream, tend to be stuck in the car, and tend to conform to 20th century media consumption habits at home and at work. The older demo is also more plausibly the audience that will listen to radio ads.

 

If you want to look at last year’s data for the same time period go here. When you look at the older demo year over year – end of February 2018 to end of February 2019 – here is what you see:

 

FAN mornings: loss of 26%

FAN lunchtime: loss of 40%

FAN early afternoon: loss of 45%

FAN drivetime: loss of 26%

 

TSN1050 mornings: gain of 20%

TSN1050 lunchtime: loss of 20%

TSN1050 early afternoon: no change

TSN1050 drivetime: gain of 55%

 

Let’s start with the offsetting losses in the lunchtime. TSN1050 ditched POS Patrick O’Sullivan after a few incidents, including him berating show host Andi Petrillo. Over at 590 they replaced longtime host Daren Millard with Jeff Marek. The fact that both shows saw losses suggests to me a change in the PPM listeners schedules rather than a loss of confidence in either show. With interest in the Leafs higher than ever it’s not believable that both shows are losing listeners to competing programming.

 

On to mornings: the FAN recently tried to fix half of what they believed not to be working by hiring their first female host of the 21st century. Brady remains in the pilot chair, a seat he has filled for many of the last 8 years. The FAN believes in the Brady brand enough to build a 3rd morning show around him. At the same time, 1050 has seen promising results with the addition of Carlo Colaiacovo to the Landsberg universe, while at the same time rebranding the show to First Up.

 

Here it is plausible to attribute some of TSN’s gains to 590’s losses. Carlo is a known entity in the market while Elliott Price was not. Pair that with a renewed interest in the Leafs (and a refreshed dislike for Montreal) and the ratings make sense. The gap between the two stations is still 3-1 but that looks much better than the 5 and 6 to 1 we are used to seeing in the global numbers.

 

In early afternoons TSN1050 finally has a meaningful victory over the competition. Sadly Scott MacArthur can’t celebrate with the team since he recently joined Rogers’ Jays coverage via their broadcast wing Rogers Sportsnet radio.

 

The 45% loss of audience share by the FAN’s Good Show over the last 12 months speaks for itself. Things look even worse if you zoom out to 18 months when this pairing took over for Andrew Walker. I’d be inclined to chalk this up to the younger audience for the show but the lower demo mirrors the older one in terms of poor performance. This is arguably (or inarguably) the least important timeslot during the day so neither side is making any money off these ratings, but the 1-4 show has historically been a testing ground for young talent and new pairings. I’ll leave it to you to discuss whether any of the current personalities on either station are being groomed for higher profile positions down the road.

 

Finally, we get to the numbers everyone is talking about. Overdrive has closed the huge gap on PTS and are just one good year away from catching up completely. Here it seems obvious that TSN’s gains are exactly PTS’s losses. Overdrive owns the Leafs, and Bob couldn’t compete even if he were to start watching the games. Add in the recent co-host changes and the problems look even worse for the FAN. I love Deitsch but the average Canadian sports fan wouldn’t know him. While everyone loves Brunt, his stature in the Canadian sports consciousness has shifted since he moved to Sportsnet. He’s still an expert on the Jays due to his close relationship with the current management and his frequent profiles on the team, but the Jays won’t be making front page headlines for another few years.

 

Then there’s the question of whether the audience has finally grown tired of Bob McCown. I’ll leave that topic for another day.

 

My hope is that TSN takes these numbers and commits to putting on a proper mid-morning show. We don’t have numbers to share on Blair because there is no competition at the moment. If I’m the FAN I seriously look at bringing Tim&Sid back on radio in some way. They could easily do a 2-4pm show on radio and still stick around to do their pre-game show on TV. Another thing the FAN should seriously consider is adding an ex-athlete to compete with TSN1050. The Zaun fiasco will have made Rogers cautious about this idea however.

 

Over to you: what do these numbers say to you about the quality of the line-ups?

 


 

 

COMMENTS

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    Mario 1 week ago

    Thanks for the new numbers MIB.
    Finally TSN radio numbers have starting to move in the right direction BUT this is only one set of rating numbers, let’s see what the next set look like to see if this is only a blip or the really thing.
    If they can carry the trend over for a full year then they got something. Never the less congratulations to them still lots of work on both sides. PTS had to get the younger demo if that’s bringing in a third man to the table possibly Bob’s replacement maybe that’s the way to go.

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    I should also note that in adults 12+ FAN has a 2 to 1 lead over TSN1050 during the most recent time period. That’s much better than previous results for TSN. Total audience for sports radio is down significantly relative to 3 years ago when the Jays were good, with most of those losses coming from the FAN side.

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    Good Show = Bad Ratings…………here are the ratings for 590 in the key demographic from 1PM to 4 PM

    Period ending Aug 2017 (before Walker left for Vancouver)…………..3.9

    Period ending Nov 2017……………2.7

    Period ending Feb 2018……………2.0

    Period ending Nov 2018……………1.8

    Period ending Feb 2019…………….1.1

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    This reads like an apology for the Fan’s poor performance. I don’t listen or watch anything on sporsnet, so I can’t be objective about this ratings book. TSN is far better at everything. Both Radio and TV

    …. Calling someone a POS would normally be a fire-able offence, but the POS that wrote it isn’t really paid to write this stuff, so whatevs…. One thing is for certain; Patrick O’Sullivan was quite good on the radio…Andi Petrillo is not

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    I love the dig at McCowan not watching hockey. Anybody who listens to him regularly knows that the Emperor has no clothes when it comes to the NHL. His commentary is almost always general in nature and rarely speaks to what happened last game or what may happen next game. Since the Leafs have become truly competitive (unless playing Tampa Bay), these are the kind of discussions fans want to hear and Overdrive does so (although often to death). I would hazard a guess that if pressed, Bob couldn’t tell you what team Trevor Moore plays on.

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    Q: If you call someone a POS in a public forum, that in turn makes you a POS, doesn’t it?…And Patrick O’Sullivan was at least worth listening to on Leaf’s Lunch – Andi Petrillo is a fan and he called her out on it. I’m sorry, but Andi is a joke as a host. She needs to leave the pompoms at home and provide some objectivity. Maybe let the panel give their opinions, she is NOT an expert. She just plays one on the radio – and the entire cast of Leafs Lunch needs to stop flirting. It’s nauseating.

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    I was sort of expecting a more dramatic reversal on PTS/Overdrive based on TSM’s tweet about it. It’s still McCown up by a chunk in a book where the whole Fan lineup seemed unusually low.  I’m pretty sure Brady/Watters had a book or two getting that close to McCown.  

    That said, I’m definitely a PTS guy, but I’m happy that TSN has a show that clearly seems to work. So, good for Overdrive! Really, I’d like it if both stations had encouraging numbers across the board, so at least they might be more inclined to invest more in the product.  Right now it feels like The Fan is running with Blair, McCown and not much else, while TSN has Overdrive and truly nothing else.  I mean mid mornings and afternoons could not be more mailed in.

    I agree with Mike – bringing Tim and Sid back in some capacity would be huge.  Good Show is really struggling.  Kind of funny though that the first TSN host to beat The Fan head to head, has already left the station.

    Like Mike, I find it hard to believe both noon hockey shows are so poorly rated in a year when the Leafs are so good.  That said, I don’t listen to either show. Always felt more like a sport specific podcast or a intermission panel to me more than a real radio show? So who knows?

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    Steve Jones 1 week ago

    Good show is a train wreck. Ennis with the over the top yelly speak, Bunkis with his never ending expertise on everything are unlistenable. It’s hard to say how unlikeable they are. So it’s now wonder they are bleeding listeners. 

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    Liberty Village Bob 1 week ago

    These ratings tell me that finding fresh voices is virttually impossible. The old men all sound the same and the young men all sound the same. O DOG is the freshest voice to come along in ages but he’s paired with two terrible cohosts.

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    Chris 1 week ago

    @Rob did he call Patrick O’Sullivian a POS or is that just his initials? You might be worked up over nothing.

    Maybe I am wrong but from my respective this doesn’t look like huge gains for TSN but rather a reduction in the overall listenership and a drop in the fan’s ratings. TSN did have a small gain.. but before everyone pops champagne for Carlo Co as the saver of the morning show, remember that 1.7 is still a awful rating. Also Mike Richards and Dave Bastl did much better on that same station in that same slot.

    I feel with the small sample size that Numerous uses a 1.7 rating could be like 2 guys listening as opposed to the 1 that was listening before haha.

    The only number that really looks even somewhat decent is Overdrives 2.7. still not a great number but at least it registers as relevant. TSN 1050 is learly a 1 show station.

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    Iain 1 week ago

    I’m surprised that Good Show has such a poor rating. I think Ben and JD are the best hosts on 590–by FAR the most entertaining. But they’re definitely from a younger generation, which works for me. May not work for older folks.

    I find it interesting how SN590 has really taken a “moralizing” slant recently. “United By Sport”, etc. Commenting on multiple social issues. I can’t help but wonder if that self righteousness turns people off. I certainly find it to be over the top at times.

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    bingoBangoBongo 1 week ago

    A few things. First, Rob is right. This reads as an apology for The Fan’s weak showing.The part where the Numeris sampling is discussed is not new. Getting radio ratings has always been difficult because there is no perfect system. The current system works best for the stations that are winning so there is no inspiration to change it. If you actually listened to the 2 stations, you come to realize The Fan’s erosion was inevitable. Let’s start with Good Show, which clearly isn’t. It’s a big problem for The Fan in several ways. Ennis is bland, Bunkis is flat out unlistenable, and they don’t seem to have any idea how to fix it. As a lead-in to McCown it’s failing dismally. It seems to be losing to Wheeler and Cauz and that is truly alarming if you’re Fan management. One thing is obvious though. They’re not getting any direction. 
    12+ numbers mean nothing. It’s just not important and that’s true across the board, including music stations. Putting that in just confuses the issue.
    Liberty Village Bob is both right and wrong. It is difficult to find fresh voices but it’s not because they all sound the same. It’s because it’s a tough job. Have a listen to the interviews. McCown can be very good when he’s invested in the topic. I would say Hayes is just as good. He’s the glue in Overdrive. O’Neil is refreshing and entertaining but somewhat lacking in actual sports knowledge. He’s a character and that’s really valuable because radio is supposed to be entertaining. As for the morning shows, both have significant problems. It’s too early to say which of the recent changes will have any impact.

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    Original Mitch 1 week ago

    For the Fan to think bringing in Deitsch on a semi regular basis would help pump some lifeblood in the show just demonstrates how out of touch they are with the market and how much trouble they might be in when Bob does retire. Deitsch is a great weekly guest, rounding up topics in a short and consise phone interview. But to think listeners want his opinion on leafs, jays, etc is foolish. Not to mention is actual scheduling, which is just confusing. No matter how much money you throw at a person, as the employer you have to ask yourself why that person’s current employer is willing to let them go. A huge miscalculation by the Fan. They have no replacement set for Bob. No eager young voice carving their own path to the big chair. Haven’t groomed anyone. It’s pathetic. 
    As for the 1-4 slot, the decline is staggering. We see the listenership thanks to articles like this, do the bosses at Rogers see them as well? Sure doesn’t look like it. 

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    You have M18-34 and M25-34. Are these supposed to overlap?

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    @Original Mitch – in terms of an eventual Bob replacement, I could see Tim & Sid moving back over to radio some day to take that slot? Perhaps they’re too big for mid afternoons at this point, but drive time radio is pretty big. Could just simulcast their radio show and doubt you’d lose much on the TV side.

    I think Sportsnet/The Fan should take a run at Adnan Virk as well (assuming TSN can’t because of their ESPN affiliation.) He was a rising star at ESPN, I think he could do great on TV or radio here.

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    Chris 6 days ago

    I think at the end of the day every show’s numbers are poor. The only people who can look at these and feel any sense of encouragement is the Over Drive boys.

    Other than that, everyone has got to be either disappointed or so garbage that any gains are still not even relevant enough to boast.

    Maybe it’s time both stations blow it up and re launch with a very different look and feel. I am not creative enough to say I have the answers. I don’t think that simply inserting a bunch of women to claim to be some sort of Liberal minded equality champion is the answer wither, no matter how much this site pushes that concept.

    I just think the product needs to be more entertaining. Somebody a lot smarter than me will have to figure out how to achieve that. Maybe the personalities need to be better. Maybe they need better production more bells and whistles. Maybe they need TV (although I never understood why anyone would watch a radio show on TV). Maybe they need to be more interactive with social media or callers. Maybe more live events in the community.

    Or maybe just less people are listening to the radio and switching to podcasts, and this as good as it gets now.

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    Original Mitch 6 days ago

    @daniel

    I agree with Tim and Sid replacing Bob. They are best known in Toronto and their current show isn’t working. Put them back in the 1-4 for now and set them up to replace Bob. 

    Regardless of whether Good Show skus younger demo, that precipitous drop is very concerning. They can make up all the excuses they want, no show drops like that and survives. Not if a good management team is in place (which thank goodness for Ben and Bunkis, that doesn’t seem to be at the Fan) 
    I think Rogers will take a shot at Adnan. Hey may be too busy with movie stuff to be interested in returning. Although, the guy gets fired from the Score for some scandal, later gets fired from ESPN for another scandal. How many chances does he deserve? Just my opinion though. 

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    Mike 6 days ago

    I’m a “younger” (32) person and I also think Good Show is the most entertaining show on the Fan. Maybe there really is a discrepancy between what the older and younger listeners want? I do think there ratings gathering methodology may be unfairly hitting them as “younger” people would be less likely to use the Numeris devices.

    I don’t want to listen to players spew cliches and sports management people come on and say basically nothing. I like listening to Ben & JD banter back and fourth is genuinely entertaining.

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    jackbee 6 days ago

    Ennis is boring and too much focus on having good sleep with special pillow from mattress co. Bunkis just another producer who thinks he can be a sports talk show host but isn’t, and he’s Bupkis in terms of his contributions to the show. FYI – Bupkis is Jewish term, look it up if u want the translation of word.

    Agree with many that Andi Petrillo is unlistenable and brings no useful hockey knowledge to Leafs Lunch. Last couple of days on LL her focus has been on finding proper headphones that keep falling off her head and when asked whose most valuable Maple Leaf player in advertised spot after day after games always seems to vote for Andersen which even her various cohosts kid her about constantly.

    Amber and Marek do credible hosting Hockey Central and should be higher up in ratings that TSN. Burke, Maclean and Kypreos do credible analysis pre and post Maple Leaf games and also comment and interview executives from other teams besides Leafs, which LL don’t do regular basis.

    Ashley Docking great addition to FAN 590 Morning Show and can compete with Brady’s penchant for talking as nauseum. She is knowledgeable about many sport and has pleasant broadcast voice. First Up good at times and Carlo C. knowledgeable about sports other hockey which has shown in phone interviews.

    He should try to eliminate toilet humor as he did this week feeling proud grabbing shoulder to male intern in TSN building bathroom who was midst of his no.1, with Landesburg commenting about the whizzing incident in humourous time.

    CC’s ability to talk about other sports than hockey is a message to Overdrive Noodles and Odog that taking off summer times from being on air with Hayes, hurts their rep as legit full time sport broadcasters. I do enjoy their banter and hockey knowledge though, especially compared as many mentioned to PTS McCowan.

    No need to bring back SS and TM to Fan490 as their shtick is thankfully limited to 2 hrs or less on tv. Scott MacArthur introduced on today’s Jeff Blaer Show officially, though and am sure others have known for several weeks about this, as host of Jays TALK after games this season on FAN 590 with Mike WILNER after 17 seasons hosting JT now free to just share play by play with Ben Wagner.

    I’ve always like MacArthuer a day 1 employee at TSN Radio and when he mentioned to Blair he’s not going to wave “pm poms” in what should be a rebuilding season when he’s on air as 3rd man in the booth bat home games and Jays talk.

    A welcome relief from MW whenever people complained the past two seasons that Jays wouldn’t make playoffs he always stated it was too early in season to write off JAYS chances, even as they fell in standings to many games below .500. The again listening to many wit of nit callers in his 17 years of JT, I can understand some of his at time illogic comments but am sure he’s glad just to concentrate on calling play by play and go home right away after home game to relax with his family.

    Have a suggestion for TSN early afternoons. Why not counter presence of Docking by having 100-400 show hosted by Beirness and Grey. Both are well versed in basketball covering Raptors on tv and radip, respectively, and am sure they’d clobber Ennis and Bupkis in ratings with their personalities and overall sports knowledge.

    Nice to have Mike Richards and David Bastl back in sports radio market on Sauga 960 AM, in mornings. Always liked Richards take on sports with his great knowledge and entertaining demeanour, especially relating to Victor Newman’s sexy betting picks.

    I would change traffic reports from every 5 minutes to 9 minutes 6 seconds, so they can go more into detail with on air interviews and their own sports comments. A TSM article on them would make for interesting reading especially if they can take a run at TSN 1050 First Up. The studio renovations 1050 are currently doing is no guarantee of improved radio ratings

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    jackbee 6 days ago

    Ennis and Bunkis aka Bupkis bland and boring. If TSN want counteract Ashley Docking being new cohost on FAN590 Starting Lineup in mornings, have Kate Beirness and Kayla Gray be cohost of KSQUAD 100-400 PM show. Both are knowledgeable and intelligent sportscasters both on Raptors game from tv live coverage and radio pre and post Raptors game hosting, respectively.

    Both would put GOOD SHOW out of their misery permanently. Both are well versed on other sports besides basketball, and ratings would be good lead in to give OVERDRIVE a needed boost in attempt to catch and overtake ratings late afternoons for PTS on FAN 590 ,someday.

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    Justin 6 days ago

    Given the radical change in radio consumption habits with listeners increasingly turning to streaming and podcasts (especially with sports radio), it’s almost unbelievable that only old-fashioned radio listeners are factored into the ratings. I’d LOVE to see some internal #s from one of the stations on how their audience is divided percentage-wise between radio, streaming, and podcasts.

    I listen to Overdrive almost every day, PTS regularly, and both morning shows occasionally. 90% via podcasts and 10% live via the TuneIn app. That there’s no accounting for listeners like me in the ratings is short-sighted. Perhaps the legacy stations are afraid of what’d happen if they changed the way ratings are gathered.

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    Liberty Village Bob 5 days ago

    Blair or Brady could replace Bob in a couple of years on PTS. Other than those two does anyone else have a longterm future at the station? Ennis? Maybe 3rd man on a morning show. Bunkis? LOLNO. Docking? TBD but probably not going to move the needle.

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    hoopsfan 5 days ago

    I enjoyed Patrick O’Sullivan. He was tired of the usual media narrative. He didn’t go with it and was let go. He was a breath of fresh air. Mike In Boston is a keyboard warrior.

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    hoopsfan 5 days ago

    Mark Hebscher and Gabe Morency are the best media personality not employed by TSN or Sportsnet.

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    Steve 4 days ago

    Adnan Virk was never coming back to Toronto, especially for a radio gig. The pay here is peanuts compared to TV work in the US. He also has a ton of young kids that are all in school so I doubt he would up-and-leave while they are in the middle their education.

    Glad to TSN Radio suits finally came to their senses and let go Gareth Wheeler. The dude is insufferable no matter what he is covering and has one of the worst radio voices around.

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    Poker Guy 3 days ago

    @Steve
    Was Wheeler let go again? I hadn’t heard.

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    Gary M 3 days ago

    Great column as always except for this bit of weirdness: “They could easily do a 2-4pm show on radio and still stick around to do their pre-game show on TV.” The game is a lot harder than that.

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    It looks like 1050 has decided to move Leafs Lunch from the 11:00 to 1:00 time slot to the noon to 2:00 time slot……………that means an extra hour of Dan Patrick (from 11:00 to noon) and one less hour of local programming 

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    Too Much 2 days ago

    The numbers you are reporting are not ratings. They are share of tuning. Which means if total radio listening went up and your station’s radio listening stayed the same, your share would go down. Pretty different from reporting the actual ratings which would show what percentage of the population was tuned into your station (and therefore had a chance to hear an ad).

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    The ratings might finally be catching up to the PTS mail-in that’s been happening over the years. Bob, in my opinion, has been almost stealing a living over the last several years. Skating by on reputation and not really in tune to what’s going on. Someone mentioned the emperor has no clothes and I think that’s very accurate. It hasn’t helped that he’s still often saddled with Shannon, who’s an instant dial changer for a lot of people. I like Richard Deitsch, but I do find him hard to listen to sometimes – the long preamble/qualifiers for every single question gets tiring. Brunt is still far and away the best cohost but he’s simply not on enough. Has Brunt turned into a company man? Hell yes. But he’s still good to listen to. The roundtable needs some serious work also. There was a time when it had interesting guests which, oddly enough, sparked interesting conversation. But these guests of old were outside of the SN bubble (Perkins, Shoalts, etc.) Now it’s normally filled with Sportsnet personalities (Shannon again) and Joey frickin Vendetta who either talk too much and have little to say or hardly talk at all. We might be finally seeing the result of long time neglect.

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    If TSN is moving Leafs Lunch to 12-2, and have essentially nothing 2-4, maybe just make Overdrive 2-6? A lot of drive home shows are in that time slot (it doesn’t HAVE to be 4-7). Maybe TSN doesn’t care enough, but if they go 4 hours a day of US syndicated stuff (plus evenings and weekends) that’s pretty sad for this market. Second tier stuff.

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    Mike 1 day ago

    @Daniel Couldn’t agree more. Nothing drives me crazier more than having a US National show on local radio. I remeber in the early days of TSN 1050 they used to have a tag line “We’re talking Toronto Sports” they would play that and then lead into the Dan Patrick Show. What a joke.

    Nothing against Dan Patrick he is a fine broadcaster, but I don’t care about the same stuff he is talking about. I don’t watch US college sports. I am in Toronto not Houston, Maiami, Columbus or Little Rock. I want to hear about Hockey. Hockey is King In Canada. Guess what’s the one sport Dan Patrick and most US shows NEVER talk about? Hockey!. It’s just not a match especially during hockey season. You want to play him in the summer when Baseball is the only show in town? go ahead. But the Leafs are in the stretch run getting ready to play the Bruins and that’s what Toronto wants to talk about. Not the freaking combine.

    TSN 1050 you are either a full time Toronto sports talk station trying to complete with Sportsnet or your not. If I wanted small town filler radio from the states I’d listen to WGR 550 Buffalo.

    Right now that station has Over Drive and Leafs lunch. The rest of the day is useless. Get your crap togther.

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    Has TSN stopped simulcasting Leafs Lunch? I haven’t seen the show for awhile on any of the TSN channels. No radio for me at lunch time…TV only and that means HCN! Hard to believe TSN thinks there is more interest in repeating the same programming over multiple channels rather than making Leafs Lunch available as we close in on the playoffs. Just as Oak Island has many mysteries, could it be that Andi Petrillo is set to tunnel over to Rogers? She should as TSN/TSN1050 is wasting her talents (as evidenced during Olympic broadcasts on CBC).

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    Bob,

    TSN is renovating the radio studio; currently, Over Drive is also not being simulcasted. I believe the simulcasts will commence once the renovations are completed, which is expected to occur next week.